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Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau
(October 23, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Exian Wrote:
(October 23, 2014 at 6:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: People use all sorts of excuses to justify evil. In this case, this ideology we are seeing from ISIS is baseless from Quran but they carry the banner as if they are representing the Quran. The Quran teaches opposite to what they teach.

We've seen in history there were even sects that said Ali was God on earth even though this contradicts the theology of Quran clearly.

I get that, and you get that. Doesn't seem to stop them though, does it? The Quran's peaceful and perfect message seems to have some clarity issues.

It does have clarity issues. I agree. But majority of Muslims see it as teaching peace. This wasn't the case through out history. So again it reflects the heart of people. If people want to ignore verses and follow others that's up to them.

وَإِذْ أَخَذْنَا مِيثَاقَكُمْ لَا تَسْفِكُونَ دِمَاءَكُمْ وَلَا تُخْرِجُونَ أَنْفُسَكُمْ مِنْ دِيَارِكُمْ ثُمَّ أَقْرَرْتُمْ وَأَنْتُمْ تَشْهَدُونَ {84}
[Shakir 2:84] And when We made a covenant with you: You shall not shed your blood and you shall not turn your people out of your cities; then you gave a promise while you witnessed.
ثُمَّ أَنْتُمْ هَٰؤُلَاءِ تَقْتُلُونَ أَنْفُسَكُمْ وَتُخْرِجُونَ فَرِيقًا مِنْكُمْ مِنْ دِيَارِهِمْ تَظَاهَرُونَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِالْإِثْمِ وَالْعُدْوَانِ وَإِنْ يَأْتُوكُمْ أُسَارَىٰ تُفَادُوهُمْ وَهُوَ مُحَرَّمٌ عَلَيْكُمْ إِخْرَاجُهُمْ ۚ أَفَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِبَعْضِ الْكِتَابِ وَتَكْفُرُونَ بِبَعْضٍ ۚ فَمَا جَزَاءُ مَنْ يَفْعَلُ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْكُمْ إِلَّا خِزْيٌ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا ۖ وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يُرَدُّونَ إِلَىٰ أَشَدِّ الْعَذَابِ ۗ وَمَا اللَّهُ بِغَافِلٍ عَمَّا تَعْمَلُونَ {85}
[Shakir 2:85] Yet you it is who slay your people and turn a party from among you out of their homes, backing each other up against them unlawfully and exceeding the limits; and if they should come to you, as captives you would ransom them-- while their very turning out was unlawful for you. Do you then believe in a part of the Book and disbelieve in the other? What then is the re ward of such among you as do this but disgrace in the life of this world, and on the day of resurrection they shall be sent back to the most grievous chastisement, and Allah is not at all heedless of what you do.
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Michael Zehaf-Bibeau - by Christian - October 23, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau - by FatAndFaithless - October 23, 2014 at 4:17 pm
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau - by Christian - October 23, 2014 at 6:05 pm
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RE: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau - by Exian - October 23, 2014 at 6:49 pm
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