(July 6, 2010 at 10:13 pm)Godhead Wrote: I don't. They're both valid, if you want to use that word. And I don't consider your take on life or your way of arriving at it to be any less valid than mine.
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1. Two contradictory concepts of a deity cannot both be 'valid'. Either one of them is true or neither of them are.
2. You, in specifically favouring the "god=universe=us" conclusion, to the point where you accept it is true, have rejected all of the other conclusions. If you believe one conclusion to be true over any other then you do not find them all to be 'valid'. You also have no standard by which you determine which of these 'intuitive conclusions' should be accepted as true, because they all meet the criteria of being emotional and intuitive, so either you have some reason to believe that your own emotions and intuitions are to be preferred, or you have simply chosen your own explanation over the others willy-nilly and don't actually give a shit about determining the truth.
3. I don't have a take on this issue, nor a way of arriving at a conclusions, because I believe adamantly that there is no logical way at present, considering all information known to mankind, to argue for or take seriously any 'ultimate and conclusive' proposition about the universe as fact. The only rational and honest thing to do is to admit that we don't know, not to actively believe in a completely unfounded proposition such as "God=universe=us", and for such demonstrably flawed reasons.
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