Where are the Morals?

[Harris]

Harris Wrote: Let me correct you, they are called Atheists because for them Science is in place of God. They actually worship their own selfish desires and think science is the doorway to fulfilment of all their desires. The difference between atheist and pagan is that atheist do not have idols to symbolise their desires as gods whereas pagans have idols to symbolize their desires.

Except, science is real - your god isn't. But no, atheists don't worship science.

Can you disprove existence of God by using your REAL SCIENCE?

1. Why is there something rather than nothing?
1. Nonsen sical question

The question “Why things at all exist when their nonexistence is perfectly possible?” that philosophers have struggled with for millennia.

You cannot denigrate this fundamental philosophical metaphysical question by characterising it as nonsensical.

Your response gives prudent signals that you do not know who Leibnitz is and how inappropriate your knowledge is for a philosophical discussions.

2. Why universe does not has a cause when everything in it is the result of some cause.
2. Spatio-temporal nature of cause is not applicable to the universe itself.

Correct! Bravo! Thank you again.

However, if Spatio-temporal nature of cause is not applicable to the origin of universe then how you explain the origin of universe. Let me give you a little assistance to help you in making your assumptions.

Universe is the product of Chance!
Universe caused without a cause! (Came out from nothingness!)
Universe created its own being!
Law of gravity produced this universe!
Universe or multiverse has eternal past but has finite future!
Universe or multiverse are eternal

Do you see any logic in the above statements?
If there is no God what else can justify existence of this Spatiotemporal Universe.

3. Why there is life on earth
3. Abiogenesis

Abiogenesis has proven nothing. This response again provided an evidence of your illiteracy.

4. Why genome has one of the most complex and most intelligent code, which is superior in every sense to all manmade codes.

4. Because it has had millions and millions of years to develop, refine and be tested whereas human coding isn't even a century old. But not to worry - human coding is catching up at a frightening speed which shows that either no-one designed the genome or that whoever did design it was extremely stupid.

"If you equate the probability of the birth of a bacteria cell to chance assembly of its atoms, eternity will not suffice to produce one...”
Page 356, volume 2
A Guided Tour of the Living Cell
Christian De Duve.

“…no-one designed the genome or that whoever did design it was extremely stupid.”
LOL! Genkaus, you are a clown.

There all you questions answered. Just as they've been answered by Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris. And the fallacies of those arguments have been proven many, many times over. If you are intentionally blind to them, I see no point in repeating them.

Can you see now, how atheism kills conscience, rationality, and logic? You, Hitchens, Dawkins, and Harris are totally got blinded in your envy against God!

Harris Wrote: Better, I would be an irrational being rather than rational like you who support prostitution, homosexuality, rape, and incest, an inhuman way of life.

I don't support rape - but the rest are fine.

But atleast we agree on something - you are irrational.

If instinctive style of living (like low life forms) is rational for you then I am ok with human way of living, which is irrational for you.

Harris Wrote: Oh Sorry again! For I have not talked about legalization of prostitution and homosexuality (the most logical and most rational concepts for you)

Simply two of them - not most logical or rational. That honor goes to declaration of human rights.

Human Rights! Declaration of human rights that was formulated by secular governments that talks about marital rape, sex workers, homosexual rights, consensual incest and other similar shit!

I would not be surprised if tomorrow I will see something on rapist’s rights.

Harris Wrote: Oh my God! So, you are struggling to make a free sex culture, the culture where your mother, sister, wife, daughter, son, father, and brother also live. Would not it be a pathetic scenario if you defend your close ones on their acts of prostitution and homosexuality? I think you should take consultation from some good psychiatrist urgently.

Any good psychiatrist would agree with me.

Had you been to any good psychiatrist or again shooting in air characteristically?

Harris Wrote: I can bet that you never touched Quran. Your arguments against Quran and against life of prophet Mohammad are coming out of your wishful thinking. Your arguments are extremely speculative and generally, they are based on hoopla and whoopla.

They're coming out of publicly known facts about the pedophile prophet and your own arguments. Getting my hands dirty by touching the quran is unnecessary.

Publically known facts! Like:

Bill Gates Wants to Give You Money
The Five-Billion Dollar Steve Jobs
Adolf Hitler Fakes Death
Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction
Watergate Scandal
Bermuda Triangle
Aryan Master Race
Jesus Never Existed
Atlantis
American Civil War Started By Britain
Princess Diana Murdered by British Royal Family
Zionism
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Moon Landing Was Faked
9/11 Was A False Flag
Piltdown Man
Columbus Discovered the Earth is Round

If you are afraid of touching hard copy of Quran then you have the option to download a soft copy of Quran. Go and get it from the following link.

http://www.qurantranslations.org/english/index.html

Harris Wrote: Who told you that Adam was committing incest? Adam had Eve. Again, this piece of information gives indications that you are ignorant person. If you have read this piece of information in Quran then show me those verses.

You are absolutely obsessed by your sexual desires or you have seen too much of illegal sex in your home or in your surroundings!

Oh! Wait I totally forgot that you are fighting hard for the legalisation of homosexuality and prostitution. No, surprise why you think about Adam this way. There is a saying “a thief always see normal people with the eyes of a thief only.”

Who did Adam's kids fuck? The only options they had were their parents or siblings - therefore, incest.

Correct! Adam’s children were getting married together in order to spread human race on earth. There was no miracle and there was no evolution. That was the requirement then. However, neither Adam nor Eve were touching their off springs in obedience of God’s commandments.

Harris Wrote: Longer I discuss with you more confident I am to state that atheism is a disease to human conscience.

The longer I listen to you the more confident I am that atheism is the cure to the disease of Islam.

I know atheism better than Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Dennett and you. On the other side, you do not know Islam more than what BBC and CNN is telling you.

Harris Wrote: I really feel sorry for you that you have lost your conscience.

Don't be - my conscience is firmly in place.

The nature of your arguments saying otherwise.

Harris Wrote: Whether you are not married and do not have any sense about extreme anxiety that may occur when you get betrayed by your life partner or you are a sick person because you do not care whether your wife share bed with your friends or not.

I never said I wouldn't feel anxiety or that I wouldn't care - but morality based on those feelings is morality based on personal desires.

I do not think there is any normal person on earth who felt no anxiety after finding his/her spouse has committed adultery. That anxiety is universally common just like killing a person for pleasure is universally accepted as immoral. For that reason, adultery is a crime and immoral act.

Harris Wrote: I think you have a feeling now on how it looks when your wife commit adultery with your friend. For me Adultery (having sex with someone other than your spouse in your married life) is also a crime as serious as if you kill a person for pleasing yourself. I totally favour capital punishments for those who commit sexual crimes.

See? Your morality is based on personal desires and that is why it is irrational, vile and disgusting

I repeat that anxiety arising out from adultery is a universal feeling and every normal person hate such feelings. For that reason, adultery is a crime and immoral act.

Harris Wrote: Sex is such a potent sense that it may obscure all of your logic and rationality. The only way to stop sexual abuses is the use of force and fear. I am preparing something interesting on this topic and you will have full opportunity to give your critical opinion.

Only where religious people are concerned and that's because of their associated guilt.

Rapist is a rapist because he has no guilt and threat of moral accountability. Rapist do not care about the existence of God at least at the time when he commits the rape. Therefore, rapist is atheist. I had never heard any case that someone raped in the name of Jesus.

Harris Wrote: Morals, essentially, centred on human conscience and empathy. The concepts of good and evil are the products of universal feelings that all adult human equally share. It is universally accepted that:

saving life of some innocent human,

to look after an orphan,

to help someone to bring him out from his burden of credit,

to help young and alone lady so she can develop a nice family life and avoid life of a prostitute or a mistress,

not to treat animals badly in order to have fun with their lives,

or to give someone any kind of help without thinking of having any benefit out of that help is universally accepted as moral.

None of these things are universally accepted as moral.


If someone is in debt due to his own incompetence, then it is immoral to bring him out of it.

Incompetence is not the only cause of debt. After the fall of Soviet Union, half of atheist Russia was in debt to other half and brutality was a norm at least after 1990 to 2010 in atheist Russia.

If a girl wants to be a prostitute or mistress to a wealthy man, then you won't be helping her by directing her towards a family.

You are a pleasure seeker for that reason your mind is incapable of thinking about human trafficking and kidnapping of young children to use them in prostitution industry to make filthy money and pleasures.

And giving someone help without considering who the person is and what he does is not only immoral, it is stupid.

To help any starving person or give medicine to some sick person who cannot afford medicine for his cure due to whatsoever reason is not stupidity. Atheism kills conscience and pushes people to arrogance and barbarism.
You have no idea about empathy.

Why are Muslims obsessed with sex?

Harris, don't you know that cousin marriage is more common amongst Muslims?

And do you like Zakir Naik?

You have exposed yourself as ex-Muslim but based on how you have formulated your question about cousin marriage, I think you were never a Muslim. Islam permits cousin marriage.

Zakir Naik is one of the best orator of comparative religions. His knowledge of different scriptures is monstrous and his scientific knowledge is up to date as he is a medical doctor. However, he is not a philosopher.

OP is probably a jihadist.

Do you know the meaning of Jihad and Jihadist?

DramaQueen Wrote: Why are Muslims obsessed with sex?

Because it gives them an excuse to talk about it, which is probably about as close to it as they are getting.

One of the most common cause why a person rejects commandments of God is the lust and desire of free sex. Genkaus is exhibiting that perfectly well.