RE: Atheism = Desperation
November 2, 2014 at 5:26 am
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2014 at 5:33 am by robvalue.)
You say this universe is self-evidently one that was created. What would a universe look like that was not created?
We recognize things as created and so having a creator by contrasting with things we know occur naturally. C++ computer code does not occur naturally, that's why we recognise it as created. We have no other universe "occuring naturally" to compare to.
Saying there is a creator is an assertion, not an argument.
Saying the creator is whatever god you happen to favour is an assertion on an assertion.
This is all the fallacy of imposing an intent or agency onto everything. "How else could it happen?" is the argument from ignorance/personal incredulity.
If this was all as obvious as you would like to think, no one would even be discussing it. If god wants us to know he exists, he is doing a terrible job of it. If he is hiding, that's his problem.
We recognize things as created and so having a creator by contrasting with things we know occur naturally. C++ computer code does not occur naturally, that's why we recognise it as created. We have no other universe "occuring naturally" to compare to.
Saying there is a creator is an assertion, not an argument.
Saying the creator is whatever god you happen to favour is an assertion on an assertion.
This is all the fallacy of imposing an intent or agency onto everything. "How else could it happen?" is the argument from ignorance/personal incredulity.
If this was all as obvious as you would like to think, no one would even be discussing it. If god wants us to know he exists, he is doing a terrible job of it. If he is hiding, that's his problem.
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