RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
November 2, 2014 at 3:44 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2014 at 3:46 pm by Mudhammam.)
(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: The Incremental Intelligence TheoremYep.
A.We have observable empirical evidence of a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes, existing here on earth
Quote:B.Therefore a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes existing elsewhere in the universe, including other possible dimensions, is a logical possibility and can not be ruled outYep.
Quote:Therefore If A is true then B is logically possible and can not be rejectedOkay.
Quote:Atheists will easily accept the existence of a sentient life form (lets call it life form 1.1) that is 1% superior in intelligence to humans, and they will accept this possibility by blind faith using nothing more than logical inferences.They will? Such as? Example?
Quote:So then we must assume life form 1.1 could exist, therefore can not be ruled out of existence. And life form 1.1 would also logically assume the possible existence of life form 1.2., and life form 1.2 would also logically assume the possible existence of life form 1.3 etc. etc.

Quote:And at every step along the way an intelligent life form that is 1% superior in intelligence/attributes can logically & rationally exist from the perspective of the life form that is 1% inferior, and at no point along the way does this chain of slightly superior life forms become an irrational concept (i.e flying spaghetti monsters) from the perspective of the preceding slightly less intelligent life form. Therefore in this chain of logically possible life forms, the existence of life form 100000^100000 (i.e creator of the universe, thus God) becomes as logical a concept as life form 1.1 is.A species of life that is inconceivably intelligent by human standards is possible. So? Are you calling anything that is immensely superior in intelligence to human beings "god" in the same way that modern technologies would likely appear to the ancients as "miracles?" You know that isn't meant to be taken in a metaphysical sense, right?
Quote:The concept of a God-like intelligence is only rejected by narrow minded subjective atheists that are incapable of mentally grasping the existence of BIG LIFE, when in fact there is no rational, logical or mathematical basis to reject a God-like intelligence from existing. Just as single celled organisms and trillion celled organisms have the same mathematical chances of existing , humans and a God-like sentience also have the same mathematical chances of existing

Quote:Understand, the "SIZE OF INTELLIGENCE" has absolutely no relevance what so ever to the potential existence of a sentient life form. Therefore unimaginably small life has the exact same chances of existing as unimaginably big life does as far as logic is concerned, and the IIT proves it at every incremental step.Why stop at intelligence? Maybe there is a species with an unfathomable number of fingers? Does that possibility demand that we believe in the existence of such a creature absent of any observation? That would just be a stupid declaration... admittedly, that seems to be what you're arguing.
Once the atheist opens the door of possibility to the existence of life form 1.1, he then must produce a reason to stop this incremental intelligence from reaching Godhood in a stepwise fashion. And the atheist can never produce a valid reason to stop the progression of this incremental intelligence other than he can't mentally comprehend a God-like intelligence existing. Therefore the atheist is forced to compare the concept of God to absurd concepts like flying spaghetti monsters to justify his reasoning in what should be a perfectly logical concept.
Quote:Atheists illogically and irrationally put a cap on the intelligence/attribute levels of all life that can possibly exist, and do so without ever giving an explanation why a God-like intelligence can not exist or is highly unlikely to exist. In fact the only logical reason someone has to put a cap on the intelligence levels in the universe, is if a life form knows all that can be possibly be known, thus is all knowing and can't know any moreNo. But kudos because with every theist that arrives here with their "awe-inspiring" proofs, I struggle to imagine how the next epic fail will topple the last. And this fail was very epic. Maybe, like, an epic fail form 1.7.
Therefore true atheism (not agnosticism) is an illogical concept
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza