(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: I find it absolutely AMAZING that you are telling me how it happened, yet you can't go in a lab and demonstrate it lol. And then you say "simply" as if it was no big thing. "Ahhh, it just sort of, happened, plain and simple".
If everything is as simple as you put it, go in a freakin lab and demonstrate it. Can you? No, you can't...so it must not be that simple now, is it?
Actually I do think that this kind of thing has been done in labs before, does anyone have a link?
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: Yeah, it is reasonable to believe that inanimate matter came to life and begin talking and thinking. Alice in Wonderland doesn't have anything on atheism.
I admit that I haven't read this entire thread but has anyone actually confessed to believing abiogenesis? It's one of a few life originating hypothesese that science has come up with but that doesn't neccessarily mean an atheist will believe it as a default.
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: Pretty much, yeah. That is still more reasonable than a process that can't think to be the originator of consciousness.
Actually no its not. I just don't think you understand the mechanisms of evolution and how it would apply into making consciousness.
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: If I blindfolded you and told you to create a human eye out of preexisting material, you wouldn't be able to do it. Yet you believe that a mindless and blind process was able to create vision???
The fact that the process itself has no eyes is the problem for you? Not at all the lack of understanding of the science you are dismissing?
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: I just don't have the faith to believe in such things.
Depends on how you are defining faith.
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: No doubt about it. When you people say your typical "magical man" or "sky daddy" man...you aren't doing anything but saying that a magician performed magic tricks, which isn't absurd at all. Magicians perform tricks all the time. That is certainly easy to conceive..we can all conceive of God saying "Let there be light", and there is light.
So you are comparing god to a magician? Someone we know is a fake? Whos tricks amount to little more than slight of hand and misdirection?
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: What we can't conceive (if we are honest with ourselves) is inanimate matter naturally, and suddenly, coming to life. Not only coming to life, but it began thinking...it began talking...it began having sex.
I don't know why it matters about what we are capable of conceiving. No human can possibly concieve the great expanse of our galaxy. We can't even concieve the size of our solar system. We can't even conceive the size of our planet or our countries. What i'm trying to say here is that it has no bearing on truth.
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: How absurd.
Well that's just your opinion isn't it.
(November 3, 2014 at 3:14 am)His_Majesty Wrote: The concept of life from nonlife was always absurd to me..even at 8 years old.
And yet the concept of god is so simple even a child could comprehend.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
