RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 12:42 pm
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2014 at 12:47 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 3, 2014 at 9:28 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You mean have I had a situation where an atheist refused to answer a simple question because the answer destroys their argument? yes.Sounds like that convo must have been fun for you - but I'm pretty sure that we're not talking about that convo. There would be no "destroying arguments" by means of a true scotsman. You already know why.
(November 3, 2014 at 1:32 am)Rhythm Wrote: It seems you don't even know your own atheist talking points.Didn;t realize that there were any, yet another atheist memo i didn;t get from the home office. I guess I outta make sure they cc'd me huh?
You can't pull out the "no true scotsman" nonsense here because I'm not claiming "no true scotsman", my argument is "never was a scotsman". Is there a reason to be confused by a vegetarian eating a steak? nope, because he is obviously not a vegetarian.
-And yet vegetarians do eat steak, and yet pacifists do commit acts of violence.....and yet christians do continue to "sin".
Your definition for what it means to be christian is unimpressive and lacking in authority. It is also not represented in reality -at all-, has no bearing on the discussion, and no power to rescue your fallacy. Sorry.
Quote:So by not answering my question you leave no choice but to answer for you, the answer is obvious.Those who decide or are compelled to commit murder don't seem to be prevented from doing so by a definition. What any given person can or cannot be doesn;t seem to be something you or your "argument" has any influence over- even if you make the demand...all-in-caps.
By definition a pacifist CANNOT be a mass murderer
Quote:The suffix "ian" means "to be like", so the word Christian means "to be like Christ" so by definition a person that does not follow the example of Christ and keep his commandments, is not a Christian (this includes mass murderers).I'm not exactly going to argue against you if the point you'd like to make is that there are no True Christians™ in this world. I would agree...but at least I'm honest enough to admit that I'm satisfied with the fallacy in this case for reasons of personal amusement- I'm not going to bullshit anyone about some "argument" to that effect which I do not possess.
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