Hi, I'm the Godhead

[tavarish]

Tavarish -

You're saying that you're not trying to convert me, yet you want me to take the time to tell you all about my beliefs so that you can point out the holes in them which you see. The thing is, no matter what I say, although you might see holes in my beliefs, I don't. So all you can do is confirm to yourself over and over again why you disbelieve what I believe, while I remain unconvinced by your point of view (not that you've told me much if anything about it). Why would I want to take the time to help you play out that scenario? Are you sure you don't want to convert me? Do you want to ridicule me?

In your first post, you invited questioning into your belief system. So far you have dodged questions, given ridiculously vague answers, and horribly illogical ones. I want to establish where our differences lie, but we first have to recognize what your standards of evidence and persuasion are. I'm willing to bet that you don't go through life thinking fire trucks are ice cream cones and that up is indeed down. Why then, would you hold such a logically contradictory belief and assert that as true?

The only thing I'm trying to get out of this conversation is how you view your beliefs to be reasonable and representative of reality - that's all.

I don't care what you believe. I just want to find your reasons for doing so, which is exactly what you wanted to happen at the beginning of this thread.

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Synackaon -

For what purpose would someone have to defend what they believe? Defend against what? What is under attack, and does it feel threatened? Don't people only defend things which they feel are jeapordised by something else? My belief in god has always been strong and nothing that has ever been said by anyone has ever made me change my mind, so why do you feel that I have to defend that belief? I certainlt don't. I'm not sure where you think the attack is coming from. If you're going to use the word "defend", you need to establish what is doing the attacking. I don't feel that your views aren't attacking mine, so I personally don't feel the need to defend them. There's nothing to defend them against.

You have yet to establish why your beliefs are at all reasonable and consistent with the standards elsewhere in your life. That's what he means by defend. A defense in this context is the ability to withstand scrutiny.