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Dems and long term mistakes.
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RE: Dems and long term mistakes.
(November 6, 2014 at 10:33 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Abolishing the minimum wage would be effectively legalizing slavery. There's no way in hell that businesses would pay workers more than what they have to, and for many jobs, that would be basically nothing.

The system I propose would make people much more free. No minimum wage and a guaranteed income. Your boss wants to you work on the Lord's day? You can tell him to fuck off and quit....even if you are an atheist.

If you quit a job today...you have no income. Minimum wages lock people into jobs because it makes harder to find jobs and harder to quit a job you don't like.

Minimum wage helps some at the expense of others. The Davis Bacon act was passed because cheap "non local" (black people from the south) labor was hurting the white man's ability to command a living wage. The Davis Bacon act required government contractors to pay prevailing wages demanded by white only unions. It allowed white unions to discriminate against blacks(by keeping them out) without any economic consequences. Prior to Davis Bacon the white unions either had to admit blacks in order to prevent them from under bidding them or accept the same lower wages black labor was working for. After Davis Bacon, black labor cost the same as white labor....and consequently there was no advantage to hire black labor over white labor....and consequently if you wanted to discriminate against blacks...it didn't cost you anything extra.

(November 6, 2014 at 11:33 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:
(November 6, 2014 at 11:00 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: It's almost like you completely missed the half of Heywood's proposal that involves a minimum income.
I wasn't writing in regards to Heywood or anyone else specifically, just the general idea I often hear conservatives suggest (without qualification about any minimum income, which I'm down with, but hardly seems realistic with our current politicians).

A negative income tax(which is a form of basic income) was almost passed under the Nixon administration.
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Dems and long term mistakes. - by Brian37 - November 5, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Lek - November 5, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Brian37 - November 5, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 5, 2014 at 8:31 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by stonedape - November 5, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by KUSA - November 5, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Lek - November 5, 2014 at 8:52 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by stonedape - November 5, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 5, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by stonedape - November 6, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Mister Agenda - November 6, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Brian37 - November 6, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 6, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by stonedape - November 6, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Esquilax - November 6, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 6, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Esquilax - November 6, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 6, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Esquilax - November 6, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 6, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by DeistPaladin - November 6, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 6, 2014 at 10:05 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by DeistPaladin - November 6, 2014 at 11:34 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 7, 2014 at 7:56 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Brian37 - November 6, 2014 at 11:45 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Brian37 - November 6, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 7, 2014 at 6:35 am
Re: RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by KUSA - November 5, 2014 at 9:37 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 5, 2014 at 9:59 pm
Re: RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by KUSA - November 5, 2014 at 10:16 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 5, 2014 at 10:35 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 6, 2014 at 1:01 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 5, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Mudhammam - November 5, 2014 at 10:34 pm
Re: RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by KUSA - November 5, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 6, 2014 at 12:26 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Mister Agenda - November 6, 2014 at 11:00 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Mudhammam - November 6, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by simplemoss - November 6, 2014 at 2:38 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by DeistPaladin - November 6, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by stonedape - November 6, 2014 at 4:38 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by simplemoss - November 6, 2014 at 3:02 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by PerfectRecall17 - November 6, 2014 at 3:30 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Brian37 - November 6, 2014 at 8:52 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Mudhammam - November 6, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Brian37 - November 6, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Heywood - November 6, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Dems and long term mistakes. - by Manowar - November 6, 2014 at 12:24 pm

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