(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Nior did I say that it does. I'm drawing your attention to the fact that torturing someone for skepticism doesn't fit any definition of mercy I've seen.
Torturing someone for skepticism?
Yes. Christian dogma is that not believing in the Christian god dooms one to Hell.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Also, Aquinas and Anselm both argued that your god is the most perfect in everything. Here, you appear to be contradicting them; yet earlier in this thread you'd used one of their arguments in a post. How do you explain this inconsistency of yours?
What did I say that would allow you to draw the conclusion that I contradicted them regarding God's perfection.
Are you not reading what you write? You wrote: "I don't think omnibenovelence necessarily entails omni-mercifulness." That means that you're saying that you don't necessarily think that your god is perfectly merciful.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: That might be the case. But in thinking this over, it comes to me that if he knows everything, including how we will respond to his tests, then we really don't have free will.
Ok...assuming you don't believe in God, are you freely not believing in God, or are you forced to not believe in God? Which is it?
Myself, I don't believe in any gods, which means that I believe this about myself freely.
You, on the other hand, believe in a God who knows everything, who made everything, and who has a Plan. Based on those premises, you must logically believe that your god has made me the way that I am.
As has already been pointed out to you, free will and an omnimax god are contradictory.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Also, why can't he just teach us, instead of forcing us to suffer in order to learn?
It is called "tough love".
Well, so much for your merciful god, then.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: So god didn't create cancer? He didn't create the 2LoT?
I was under the impression that he created everything.
2nd law of thermodynamics.
Answer the point, quit shilly-shallying.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: No, all humans die, and that's a fact. Of course you realize that I'm talking about physical death, and you're deliberately equivocating here.
If when you physically die you will spend an eternity with God, then physical death doesn't really seem to mean much, now does it?
If worms had machine guns, birds wouldn't fuck with them. Quit equivocating; you're only showing further that you're not honest.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: But you worship a god who has killed every huma who has ever lived, because the first two bit the apple. That is hardly a picture of perfect justice there.
Anyone that accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior will live forever. You keep talking about physical death on earth...that is not the big picture, the big picture is eternity with God.
So you claim. Yet you cannot provide one shred of evidence for this god-thingy, nor can you even coherently define him, nor can you reconcile the internal contradictions of the god you whimsically worship.
Remind me again why I should give two shits rubbed together about your opinions.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Um, have you not heard the phrase "hide nor hair"? It means you can find no sign of him.
No, I haven't.
Nor have I found any sign of him.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: If English is not your first language, let me know, I'll be happy to write more formally if that will help your comprehension.
Ebonics is my first language.
You'll have to try harder in the wit department. D+. Credit for surprise, demerit for obvious race-baiting. Rewrite and resubmit.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Behind what? You only answered one question with a modicum of sense, and even that is much more problematic than your facile answer would indicate.
Not even Jesus was able to please everyone.
Climb down off the cross, kid. You're no prophet.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Whoever those atheists were you claimed helped you hone your argument did a shitty job. The only difference between you and most Christian trolls is that you type more.
My posts are of good quality, and good quantity.
No. They've been dissected page after page, just like any other AiG boilerplate, and just like every other Christian troll I've ever seen, you're either too stupid to see it, or to dishonest to admit it.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Do you not know their consituent molecules? Would you like a class in that?
Your avoidance of the question "Where did amino acids come from" is quite apparent.
Nonsense. Clarify what you want, and you'll get an answer. Obfuscate any more, and you'll suffer mockery.
(November 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Or, if you're asking where did matter come from, it came from the singularity, which you've already had explained to you.
That is like saying "the furniture IN the house came FROM the house". Makes little to no sense and you don't even have to think too critically to draw that conclusion.
Not at all, to anyone who knows a little cosmology.
Present company seems to be excluding herself.