(November 10, 2014 at 2:33 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 9, 2014 at 12:08 pm)Surgenator Wrote: The possibilities are endless, but there is only one reality. So to say something is possible isn't saying much at all. Stating the likelihood is where you can acutually get somewhere.
Right, there is only one reality...and the reality is the fact that if something is possibily necessarily true, then it is actually true.
Are you arguing an oxy moron? What is a "possibily necessarily"? Either it is a possibility or a necessity, not both.
Quote:(November 9, 2014 at 12:08 pm)Surgenator Wrote: What is the likelihood that abiogenesis is true? It is based on chemical reactions which we know exist.
I don't know about that.
There is a series of stages of chemical reactions that lead to a protocell. Are you claiming that there are no series of chemical reactions that can eventually lead to a protocell? Which stage(s) would be impossible?
Quote:(November 9, 2014 at 12:08 pm)Surgenator Wrote: It's also based on self-replicating molecules which we also know to exist (e.g. RNA). So the likelihood is pretty high.
Or this. Go in a lab and demonstrate it, and then start barking.
http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/2009/010809.html
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shorts...rna-e.html
Quote:First off, your arguing as if they're on the same footing. They are not. The nonlife to life you are still working with physicsal stuff while God is an acting, talking intelligence without a physical body.(November 9, 2014 at 12:08 pm)Surgenator Wrote: What is the likelihood that God created life? Well it is based on an intelligents that doesn't have a physical body which we have never seen that.
We've never seen life from nonlife and consciousness from unconsciousness either.
Actually we have seen consciousness from unconsciousness, think how humans are born. A human starts from a single cell and grows up to an adult. A single cell does not have consciousness while an adult human does.
Quote:(November 9, 2014 at 12:08 pm)Surgenator Wrote: It is based on a being that can break physical laws of nature which we have never seen either. So God's likelihood is pretty small.
Right now, there is no physical law of nature which state that life can come from nonlife and consciousness from unconsciousness.
There is also no physical laws preventing it to. What is your point?