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A Misconception about Islam
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RE: A Misconception about Islam
(November 15, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Strongbad Wrote:
(November 14, 2014 at 11:08 am)abaris Wrote: Bold statements should be supported by some data. This article quotes the Europol statistics:

http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2011/11...y-muslims/

And this one FBI data.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/m...-2012.html

Yeah, I must be an "Islamophobe". I guess I should have qualified such a bold statement. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most of the murders, worldwide, committed by terrorists, are perpetrated by Muslim terrorists.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Terrorism

Quote: “Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year,” the report says. “More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities.”

I warn people not to play this game, it is easy to fall for and get trapped in.

The believer, outside of any issue of labels, will trap you by making it about labels. The real issue is pointing out to ANYONE of any label, that criticism is not a matter of human rights, but a pragmatic necessity to prevent bad claims that lead to harm to others.

For the same reason you attack Christianity, it is right to allow for human rights because that is what civil society should do, but in the process we still have a human duty to point out to others when their claims leads to violence towards others or oppressive laws that devalue human dignity.

Lets not lose sight of our species history in this. We are tribal by evolution and for whatever good we may attach to a group or book, those same labels are also used to justify harm to others.

You can only say currently about Islam is that it is CURRENTLY at this point still stuck in the past as a climate. That part I agree with and even Muslims would do better by not allowing their own cover to justify cruelty to others.

But outside that we have not ever been a separate species. Ann Frank and Malala and Martin Luther King Jr, are not proof of any one god existing in reality, but proof of our species ability to be compassionate. Islam can grow to that point, but as much as it takes others outside to point that out, it is also just as important for those within it to be introspective.
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A Misconception about Islam - by Khansins - November 13, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Minimalist - November 13, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Khansins - November 13, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by SteelCurtain - November 13, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Khansins - November 15, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Lemonvariable72 - November 17, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Khansins - November 18, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by pocaracas - November 18, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Chas - November 19, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by dyresand - November 19, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by SteelCurtain - November 19, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Ben Davis - November 13, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Chad32 - November 13, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by abaris - November 13, 2014 at 7:31 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Khansins - November 14, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Alex K - November 14, 2014 at 3:27 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 14, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by pocaracas - November 14, 2014 at 7:50 am
Re: RE: A Misconception about Islam - by SteelCurtain - November 14, 2014 at 1:37 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Zen Badger - November 14, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Minimalist - November 14, 2014 at 2:56 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Cyberman - November 15, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Minimalist - November 15, 2014 at 12:25 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Lemonvariable72 - November 16, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by pocaracas - November 14, 2014 at 5:18 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Strongbad - November 14, 2014 at 10:23 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by abaris - November 14, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Strongbad - November 15, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Brian37 - November 15, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Chas - November 14, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by downbeatplumb - November 14, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Brian37 - November 15, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Cyberman - November 17, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by The Valkyrie - November 17, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by Brian37 - November 19, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by pocaracas - November 19, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: A Misconception about Islam - by dyresand - November 19, 2014 at 11:59 am



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