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Full circle
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RE: Full circle
by virtue of extrapolation, science and god run into the same issue. First Cause. What caused the Big Bang?

Theists get around this, ineffectively I might add, by insisting that god was the first cause and always was with no before god. Science on the other hand has not come up with a viable 'First Cause' either. The latest greatest, that I am aware of, is that a uncaused fluctuation in the pre Big Bang universe/world/space (stick whatever word or description you would like here) led to the explosion of a singularity. Either scenario still has a multitude of issues, mainly what was before the First Cause?

Once one dismisses time, before and after cease to exist which eliminates first causes and infinite regression. This would mean that everything, every possibility exists now. Quantum physics equations even suggest this possibility.
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Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Full circle - by Cato - November 16, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Full circle - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2014 at 11:30 pm
RE: Full circle - by Exian - November 16, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Full circle - by Minimalist - November 16, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Full circle - by Cato - November 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Full circle - by bennyboy - November 16, 2014 at 12:59 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Full circle - by Esquilax - November 16, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Full circle - by Esquilax - November 16, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Full circle - by Esquilax - November 16, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 23, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: Full circle - by bennyboy - November 23, 2014 at 11:12 pm
RE: Full circle - by Mystical - November 16, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Full circle - by bennyboy - November 16, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Full circle - by Esquilax - November 16, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 30, 2014 at 1:42 am
RE: Full circle - by bennyboy - November 16, 2014 at 7:49 pm
RE: Full circle - by Whateverist - November 16, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2014 at 2:33 pm
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Full circle - by JuliaL - November 16, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: Full circle - by bennyboy - November 16, 2014 at 8:43 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: Full circle - by JuliaL - November 16, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: Full circle - by bennyboy - November 16, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 16, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Full circle - by bennyboy - November 17, 2014 at 5:39 am
RE: Full circle - by *Deidre* - November 17, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: Full circle - by TreeSapNest - November 17, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 17, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Full circle - by TreeSapNest - November 18, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 23, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 8:59 am
RE: Full circle - by IATIA - November 27, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: Full circle - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2014 at 7:52 am

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