(November 17, 2014 at 6:30 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 16, 2014 at 8:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: fossil record, mostly.
When you find a fossil, why are you determining anything other than "this once living thing has now died". Why are you bringing extra stuff in to it??
See, evolutionists already presuppose evolution, so when they find a fossil, they let their presupposition interpret the finding.
But then if you find fossils and don't consider evolution then the alternative is nonsense.
You would have to believe that either god came down every billion years or so, killed everything and started fresh.
Or that every animal that's ever been extinct that there are fossils of existed all at the same time, with each other.
I don't think it's accurate to say scientists presuppose evolution is true exactly.
But I'll use the word presuppose just to entertain the idea that you might be right.
I'm not sure about the fossil record because I'm not a professional but I'm pretty sure the professionals in this field of study believe they have fossil evidence of whale like creatures with legs, giraffes with shorter necks, dinosaurs and so on and so on and so on.
So a paleontologist and his scientist friends have to either "presuppose" evolution. Or believe that marsupials, horses, humans and so on all lived with the dinosaurs.
You would have to presuppose that every extinct thing that ever existed once existed all at the same time together.
Just to clarify I do think it's ludicrous, the idea that professionals in this field just got together and thought "Well fuck it, can't explain why all these fossils are here stuff happened lets just say it was evolution or somethin."
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