Systematically Dismantling Atheism

[Brian37]

re: agnosticism

Bullshit. Agnosticism doesn't have to be seen as a confidence rating-- it is, in fact, a position, which I hold. When asked, "Do you think God exists," you have three perfectly coherent and distinguishable responses: 1) Yes, I think God exists; 2) No, I don't think God exists; 3) I don't know whether God exists.

"I dont know" only says "I don't know" it does not say what you claim not to know.

Now again, I get that you are taking the standard definition, I am telling you it is not a good definition.


I am giving you a BETTER definition.


Are you CURRENTLY agnostic about unicorns? You would still have to admit since you have not lived the future that "technically" you have to be "agnostic" since we cannot no with 100% certainty.

So in the case of claims of unicorns you could rightfully say that you are currently atheistic on that claim(currently you do not hold that position) but agnostic about what future evidence might change your position.

So the term agnostic atheist is not contradictory.


Past, present and future. Have to be taken into account. "agnostic" does not address anything by itself.

Now Huxley took a Greek prefix and a Greek suffix that were never used in ancient Greece together. But when you properly use them individually separately this is how they are defined.

Prefix "a"=without

Suffix="gnosis or gnostic"=knowledge.

NETHER that prefix or suffix say anything about subject matter or position. So the word has to be put in front of something for it to make sense.

If I could take a time machine back in time I would kick Huxley in the nuts for creating a word with an improper use.

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Here is a simple thing you can literally do to understand my point.

Next time you are out in public, walk up to a complete stranger and say "I dont know", don't say anything else. I would bet my life they are going to say "You don't know what?" The simply repeat "I don't know". Keep repeating that and nothing else until they walk away from you because they think you are nuts.

That is why I say "I don't know" is not a position. It has to go in front of something to make sense.