RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
November 21, 2014 at 3:00 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2014 at 3:14 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 20, 2014 at 10:52 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I am one, and I can explain why. I think reality transcends language-- and language breaks down long before you reach the truth. I believe that there's something deeper to the universe, something that makes sentience, for example, possible or even necessary. Some missing piece of the puzzle is lurking just behind everything I experience-- like a canvas under a painting.But they -do- know what they're talking about, and you - for your part- have called it obvious fiction. You know what you believe about gods. You may be agnostic -about gods nebulously defined-, but you aren't agnostic about the -status of your own beliefs-.
But what is this, and what would it be called? Is it an entity with a name? A philosophical principle? Just an idea? A singularity?
I think if people ever come into contact with a deeper sense of that, whatever it is, they must necessarily have experiences that will be indescribable by words, and that they must therefore resort to metaphor. Words like "God" and "reality," I think, mean very little at the boundary conditions of our human experience-- frankly, I don't think we have the apparatus to tell one from the other. All we can do is scratch our heads, stare in the mirror, and try to figure out who that bald monkey looking back at us is.
That's why I'm agnostic-- I believe that whatever underlies reality could be CALLED God if you chose to, but I know that when most people ask the question, they're not talking about that-- they're talking about an obvious fiction. So I'm not willing to take a position, other than "I don't know what you're asking about, and neither do you." And if the question is not found to be defined, then how is one to take a position on it, one way or the other?
-and btw, I could -call- a toaster a god. Here again, not everything we imagine.......are you agnostic about your beliefs regarding my toaster god? Do you not know your own mind- and if so..then how do you know that you're "one of those people"?
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