(November 22, 2014 at 9:18 pm)Surgenator Wrote: And you just gave me your queen. If most NDEs are not NDEs and the experiences are the same, then the NDEs are just in the mind not somewhere else.In one of Rik's other threads I quoted a paragraph from Dave McRaney's latest book, describing how Air Force pilots who go through training to handle excessive G-forces often describe experiences identical to those of NDE cases, right down to the bright lights, the out-of-body experience, seeing scenes from their lives (which have or have not happened) play out, and so on.
In other words, you don't have to be ND to have an NDE, which means that the term may be technically incorrect. I'm curious if the name will change as more research is done into the phenomenon.
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