(November 23, 2014 at 11:45 pm)Aractus Wrote:(November 23, 2014 at 11:22 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I don't think all science think the same on diet, and the psychology of obesity, not at all, do your own research, there is a hell of a lot on the subject.Of course not all science agrees on everything that's not my point.
Nor is psychology of particular interest to me either, although I'll grant you that psychological reasons can cause people to do unhealthy things.
Obesity is not just a physiological state of the body it is a disease, just like type-2 diabetes. You could argue that type-2 diabetes isn't a disease just like obesity for the reason that it merely describes a physiological state of the body: i.e. caused by insulin resistance. Obesity is caused by leptin resistance. It's so similar to diabetes in the way it is caused that seeing it as a disease seems the most appropriate response.
Your explanations completely ignore the role that hormones play in controlling appetite and the scientific findings that there is a biochemical process that drives abnormal weight gain, and the scientific findings that non-medical intervention cannot reverse obesity long-term.
You only have to look here in Australia, comedian/actress Magda Szubanski lost 36kg on Jenny Craig - (that's the one where qualified nutritionists help you to lose the weight through diet planning) - she became the main spokesperson for the company in their commercials - and within 2 years she regained the weight. The company dropped her. The company (Jenny Craig) blamed the consumer for their product not working, and not the product!
Yes all that you have said is also a factor of obesity, there probably be as many reason as there are people with obesity. And how do we know that Magda hasn't got a psychological reason for her eating, or over eating ?. I think the only way is to find the reason that you are the way you are yourself, which again could be anything, this is why the dieting organisations do so well, plenty of money is made by so many confused people spending it on trying to lose weight.