(November 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Your appeals to authority -and majority- are unconvincing (and illogical)
Actually it isn't illogical...because I am not saying that just because the vast majority of historians today recognize Jesus as a historical figure, that it is true. I am saying the vast majority of of historians today believe that Jesus existed based on the very same sources that I presented on this thread. Nothing more, nothing less.
(November 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: can you explain -why- they have reached this conclusion (particularly when none of them seem to have anything to say about any "jesus the man")?
None of them? How do you know? The fact is, as I keep stressing, that the vast majority of historians accept Jesus as a historical figure....Jesus "the man"...and the amazing part about it is not all of them are Christians...just because you accept Jesus as a historical figure doesn't make you a Christian...and most of you are under the false assumption that is does...which is why you have so many people on here doing every thing that can to raise objections to the sources, as if acknowledging that Jesus existed will automatically make them Christians...bullshit..you can accept that Jesus existed as a man, and just a man, and not have the burden of Christianity hanging over your head...which is what those that DO believe in Jesus "the man" have done. And again, the non-Christian sources themselves acknowledge that there existed a man behind the belief, who lived during the Tiberius administation and crucified by Pontius Pilate. Thats it.
(November 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I could tell you that authorities in their fields don't believe in a god, have in fact concluded "no god" -but you wouldn't accept that..would you?
Straw man. I never said nor implied that just because they believe it, that it is true. The quality of the accounts that I presented in this thread has been questioned, and I merely stated that the vast majority of all historians accept the sources, and most aren't even Christians. Nothing more, nothing less.
(November 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Why even offer the sources, why not just say "Lots of people believe it, so that settles it".....?
How does it feel to devote an entire post on a irrelevant straw man interpretation of what someone else said???
