RE: The O'Crappy Factor.
November 27, 2014 at 11:19 am
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2014 at 11:23 am by Jenny A.)
(November 27, 2014 at 8:21 am)Brian37 Wrote: Science Wiz Kid Bill O Crappy who doesn't know how the tides work, said about Ferguson that he understands protesting because that is how you make change.
That voting, running candidates, and showing up at city and county meetings yes, that's how you make change. The civil rights movement, women's suffrage, the labor movement, and heaven help us prohibition were all accomplished that way.
Quote:Sound nice right? Yea this coming from a guy who works for the "Fuck the poor" network. Idiots like him do not seem to understand that it takes investment and inclusion in the political process.
Other than voting, running for office, and protesting, what would inclusion in the political process be? Enlighten this upper middle class old lady.
Quote:White and black GOP voters still dont understand, it boils down to economics. If everyone wants it not to be about race, then stop thinking that liberals value poverty as a loyalty oath.
Can't remember thinking anything like that actually.
Quote: Liberals merely say for anyone, there should be a livable wage no matter where someone ends up on the chain. Poverty wages hurt everyone. They hurt rural whites, middle class and the rich because the demand is not there to get people in the door.
Actually, I'm all for a livable wage. I suspect strongly though, that we differ significantly in what we think is livable. We also differ on the best way to accomplish a living wage for all. Raising minimum wage too high reduces the number of jobs. It's simple supply and demand. Higher prices reduce demand.
Quote: But you cannot fix these things by ignoring that one segment of society is hurt more by the economy than others. IT SHOULD NOT be a race issue. It should be a recognition of human behavior, that when one part of an ecosystem is hurt that hurts everyone long term.
Actually, I agree with you that extreme income and wealth differences are not a good sign for any country. However, welfare tends to make those differences endemic; minimum wage tends to lead to unemployment; and rent control leads to housing shortages. Improving education and supporting small business development are better options. (HINT: education is expensive).
Quote:Now please skip the excuses for your greed when you respond.
"You don't understand".
"It is robbery when I don't get what I want"
"You are a communist"
"You want everyone to be poor"
I'll just stick with "you don't understand" and let it go at that.
Quote:I am so sick of people treating economies as if they are a script and can be applied like a cookie cutter and baked for everyone.
And I'm so tired of people who don't see the unintended consequences of nice sounding changes.
(November 27, 2014 at 10:56 am)Brian37 Wrote:(November 27, 2014 at 10:37 am)Heywood Wrote: Is there a particular O Reilly Factor segment you want us to discuss? If so can you post it?
Not with you bubble boy. You're simply going to regurgitate your math like a theist does bible verses.
Oh goodie. You don't like math. That makes it rather difficult to discuss anything rationally with you. If anyone appears to have made a religion out of politics it's someone who can say with a straight face, I don't what to talk with you because you'll bring math into it.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.