RE: The O'Crappy Factor.
November 28, 2014 at 10:59 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2014 at 11:54 am by Brian37.)
Haywood Wrote:Why is it the businesses responsibility to pay a living wage
There are your true colors right there. "Screw you I got mine". This mentality is the dark side of evolution. It is a failure to understand how healthy ecosystems benefit all involved. You can staple you nuts to the wall, but that does not make it a good idea. The part you constantly miss is there is a HUGE difference between legal and moral. It is a choice between how we as a species want to gain resources. Do we simply fight over resources just because we can and allow those with the power to do whatever they want? Because you don't need an open market to do that.
What you claim as far as numbers DOES work, but that does not make it moral. Gadaffi also used the global market . China also uses the global market. Neither you or I would want to live in either place.
You criticize Christians, you get called a bigot. You criticize Islam, you get called a bigot. You criticize Jews you get called a bigot. Haywood is having the same keejerk raction on issues of economics as theists do with religion. You don't criticize anything to rid the world of it. 7 billion people will never be on the same page. You criticize it keep it off a pedestal so that NOTHING becomes abusive. Haywood suffers from the same bubble think religion does. You get sold an idea and you cling to it without regards as to how it affects others.
(November 27, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I have no argument about O-Reilly being a twat.
I'd just like Brian to actually answer my point. I mean, words have meaning, and if he misspoke about the "inclusion" part, that's cool. A little clarification goes a long ways.
But launching into insulting diatribe because someone takes issue with some of your wording and points that out ... well, that's just being a dipshit. If it is what you meant, defend it, and if it isn't what you meant, clarify it, but beyond everything else, grow up and learn how to disagree like an adult.
Either that, or stick to posting about ABBA.
I am under no legal obligation to say only nice things about anyone. If you want to live in a fascist state North Korea or Saudi Arabia might suit you. Outside that, on a private message board I am only bound to the rules of this board and subject to following the requests of the admins and owner of this board. I am not legally bound to be nice to anyone. I am only legally prevented from acting out in violence or calls for violence.
You need to grow up. I am tired of my species, including PC atheists, and my well intended liberal theist friends getting upset over word choice. Christians living in Kurdish Iraq have a right to fear. Gays living in Iran have a right to fear. You and I get to go to bed at night without that fear. If the worst that happens to you is being offended, you are in much better shape than lots of humans who cannot offend.
I take the same view about any topic, do not get married to an idea. Do not worship an idea. I see the same mistakes in our species evolution, that leads to all sorts of dogmatic thinking. Haywood is simply is married to one idea. And just like religion, he stupidly thinks any challenge to his idea is a call to outlaw it.
In evolution we see diversity, so certainly I do accept economic diversity. What I do not accept about it is the idea that our personal likes to our own patterns means we should never examine them.
And again, nothing I said is anti western, or anti open market. It is a challenge to change the climate, not get rid of anything.
You do not need an open political system to call yourself "capitalist". Nor does an open market, which I am for, mean by proxy that it cannot be abusive.
Haywood is reacting like Jews and Muslims and Christians when you merely make a peep about a real problem. Just like religion, I am not telling him he has to go away, I am saying that the current climate of our global market IS abusive. Not just in America, but in China and India and fuel alone is causing pollution that will make things worse for our species.
Our global wealth simply needs to be constructive, and be about solving problems, not merely about making a buck.
