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Unicorns???
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RE: Unicorns???
Unicorns really are a translation problem.




Saytrs are more interesting because they are translated "goat demons" in the NRSV:

Quote:But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there, and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.
Isaiah 13:21 KJV

Quote:The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.
Isaiah 34:14 KJV

Quote:But wild animals will lie down there,
and its houses will be full of howling creatures;
there ostriches will live,
and there goat-demons will dance.
Isaiah 13:21 NRSV

Quote:Wildcats shall meet with hyenas,
goat-demons shall call to each other;
there too Lilith shall repose,
and find a place to rest.
34:14 NRSV

Night demons pops up here and there too as an alternative to goat demon. That makes it better right?

Some other translations just use "wild goats."

The Hebrew word is sa’ir.

Quote:It is related to the term se’ar (“hair”), which means a “hairy one.” Mostly the word is used of the male goat that was employed as a sin-offering — especially that solemn sin-offering of the day of atonement (Lev. 16).
https://www.christiancourier.com/article...-the-bible

It's translated variously elsewhere in the Bible:

Quote:Twice the term is rendered “demon” (Lev. 17:7; 2 Chron. 11:15 — KJV), where it actually signifies a pagan god that takes the form of a goat (see ESV — 2 Chron. 11:15).
https://www.christiancourier.com/article...-the-bible

Satyr is a translation error, but the demon goats, not so much. So about those pagan demon goats? Are there other gods, or demons?
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Messages In This Thread
Unicorns??? - by simplemoss - November 30, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by LostLocke - November 30, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by dyresand - November 30, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by vermin - November 30, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by simplemoss - November 30, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by IATIA - November 30, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by Aoi Magi - November 30, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by Nope - November 30, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by Smaug - November 30, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by The Valkyrie - November 30, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by abaris - November 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by The Valkyrie - November 30, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by Jenny A - November 30, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by simplemoss - December 1, 2014 at 10:03 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by dyresand - December 1, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by Jenny A - December 1, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by simplemoss - December 4, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Unicorns??? - by IATIA - December 4, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by Jenny A - December 4, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Unicorns??? - by IATIA - December 5, 2014 at 12:48 am



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