(December 1, 2014 at 2:38 pm)dyresand Wrote: If you really think about it a all knowing being would be the one doing called god. god creates humans he knows the outcome he knows who is and who isn't going to hell. so this line "you send yourself to hell not god". is false. if a all knowing being who has knowledge of the past and present and our futures free will gets thrown out the window and lets forget about it.
So.. Just because you know how a movie ends, even if no one else in the theater has seen it, does it mean you wrote the movie?Quote:even if you wanted to go to heaven and well if you had knowledge that well he knows what you are going to do so he has a planned out that your going to hell because i know you are and i know what your going to do.
What?!?!Ok again back to Knowing how a movie turns out before everyone else.
If you had knoweledge of a plot twist well in advance of anyone else, does it mean you wrote in the twist into the movie, or does it simply mean you saw the movie before? even If worked on set, or even if you were the movie producer who makes everything happen, it still doesn't mean you wrote the movie.
God has produced our own movie.
Quote:What if our sins go back further? or what if you do not understand the nature of sin?
Quote:and yet some people will say god doesn't interfere with free will... yes he does in the OT and the NT making a mans heart cold and not letting the jews go.If your heart was harden toward a given segment of the population would you keep them in slavery? Pharroah's Heart was already hard is the thing most of you selectivly forget. God Harden it to limit 'buyers remorse.'
Quote:Yeah god does what he sees fit,Indeed, the question then becomes what Does God see fit to do? The answer provide an oppertunity for attoment for sin for all who want it. effectivly making all who do not select Heaven/Attonement elect Hell/sin.
