(December 1, 2014 at 11:11 pm)Godschild Wrote:(December 1, 2014 at 7:42 pm)Nope Wrote: There is no place as hell so there is no reason for anyone to be afraid of it.
The Christian god is no different then the character, Jigsaw in the Saw movies. Jigsaw set up a series of deathly tests that forced a person to chose between something horrible and dying. He claimed these bizarre tests to taught people to love life and he also claimed that he wasn't the person responsible for anyone's death. His victims decided how they would respond to the scenarios he set up. How is that not like the Christian god?
God's real your guy well the screen is where he lives.
GC
(December 1, 2014 at 7:58 pm)Tonus Wrote: But god is not some ordinary person, beholden to the whims or needs of another. The only person god is obliged to is god. If god desires something, no one stands in his way. If god truly desires that none suffer in hell, then none will suffer in hell. Otherwise god is conflicted, and therefore his well-being is suddenly in the hands of his creation. He must spend eternity worried, because unless he removes free will, there will always be the opportunity for someone to hurt him by rejecting him.
It does not make sense for him to create that kind of reality around himself.
That's because you've never experienced God's love, free will is that important to Him. God is never conflicted, He's omniscient. His well being lays only with Him, He's omnipotent. If God was only obliged to himself, then why did Jesus die for us. Seems you have some problems in your thoughts about God.
GC
There is no god but the Christian concept of god is exactly like Jigsaw without the cool mask.
Imagine if I put the name Odin in place of god in your statement. How that sounds to you is how your statement sounds to atheists.
That's because you've never experienced Odin's love, free will is that important to Him. Odin is never conflicted, He's omniscient. His well being lays only with Him, He's omnipotent. If Odin was only obliged to himself, then why did Odin hang on a tree for us? Seems you have some problems in your thoughts about Odin.
I changed the bit about Jesus dying because Odin is supposed to have climbed a tree and hung there until he gained wisdom for the gods and humanity. It probably sounds silly to you now but that is how your original comment sounds to me. You need to prove that your god exists and is worthy of worship before your comment makes any sense to nonbelievers.
