(December 7, 2014 at 10:28 am)Riketto Wrote:(December 6, 2014 at 2:58 pm)Surgenator Wrote: So doctors not proving someone is dead automatically acquired no knowledge.You should consider how stupid that sounds. If a doctor sees that there is no heartbeat and fails to resuscitate the patient, 99.99% of the time is because the patient is dead. You're bringing up rare cases of where doctors were wrong, and then claim they don't know anything.
You didn't get my irony didn't you surgen?
Quote:Provide your source for this claim.
When you got sometime go through as many NDEs as you can in the link that i already gave
http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/NDERF_NDEs.htm
.....and click on the name of those persons who had an NDE to see in details.
Quote:So your tactic is to completely ignoring the point, and spouting gibberish.
I already explained how according to me the system works in case of an NDE.
God let you believe whatever you like so if you are a Christian or a Buddhist or belong to any other denomination he will let you see the divinity or your belief in Him.
But God doesn't have a body figure so at the end it doesn't really matter what it is the figure.
You automatically know that that figure is God.
Quote:You should know there is a difference between what the doctrine says, and what people actually do. I'm arguing about what the Buddhist doctrine says. The doctrine says that the end goal of Buddhist is to remove oneself from wants.
I agree that Buddha philosophy say that.
All i am telling you is that probably less than 1% of the so called Buddhists follow in a practical way that philosophy.
I travel a lot in Thailand, Singapore and Hong kong and i see what Buddhist do and i often talk to them that is why i can say that almost nobody follow Buddha philosophy.
I have seen Buddhists monks smoking and eating meat.
How the hell can you remove yourself from wants when in fact you carry on with the most crude and unhealthy practices?
(December 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm)robvalue Wrote: I'd start off with "hello" and kind of go from there.
If it starts quizzing me about why I didnt realize whatever this God is existed, I'd say there was no good evidence. If he wants to hit me or put me in the naughty room after that, I probably can't do much about it.
IF i would be God i wouldn't even allow you to see Him nor i would not punish you.
After all if you are not a criminal and karma law doesn't apply to you why should you be punished?
All i would do is to give you as many more reincarnation as it is needed to make you reach the point of understand how the system work and finally understanding that God exist but again i am no God so everything is possible.
(December 6, 2014 at 4:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: God as commonly claimed is a broken concept...............
That is one of the problem Brian.
Religions for far too long have claimed this and that while yoga let you work out how the system works so instead of being told, you just work that out by yourself.
Stop it, the three letters g and o and d that make up the word God and god, are meaningless words that people keep in their head and assign their own attributes to.
Humans make up gods, gods are not real. And as the "lets pretend for argument's sake" as indicated by the "If" question would still not change my attitude towards such a character.
There has never been or ever will be such a thing as a not material magical super brain with super powers. God is no more real than superman or Thor or unicorns.
Your splitting the baby mentality is coming from your empathy and sense of fairness. It has nothing at all to do with the reality that humans make up gods. The concepts are merely a placebo humans construct and falsely believe in because that is easier than accepting our finite reality.
Now the easiest way anyone thinking even the thought "there might be" is more than welcome to take their claim into a lab, get it tested and falsified and independently peer reviewed and beat everyone to the patent office. But do not ask me to hold my breath or do their homework for them.
There is nothing magical about life and there is no need or reason at all to insert what is in reality, a projection of human's desires and fears out of ignorance of reality, into science to explain anything.
The universe does not give one crap about our species history of god claims, it was around long before and after our planet and sun dies, it will continue and there will be no record of our species childish superstitions.
I am sorry if it bothers you or anyone here that reality is offensive to you. Too bad. Science does not care if you accept it or not.