(December 7, 2014 at 10:53 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:(December 7, 2014 at 10:48 pm)ChristIsLord Wrote: I believe in God and Jesus because the evidence is also undeniable.
False. If such evidence existed, there would be no reason for atheism. Everyone would believe without question.
(December 7, 2014 at 10:48 pm)ChristIsLord Wrote: Consider how C.S. Lewis puts it....I'm paraphrasing here
Jesus was either who He says He was (God in the FLesh) or an absolute nut-job on par with a psycho who claims to be a poached egg. We have two choices here, and that is to dismiss him as complete nut-case or to bow down at his feet as the Lord and Saviour.
Jesus told His disciples that the world hated Him first and that the world (non-believer) would hate them on the count of Him and they would be persecuted even onto death because of His name.
Christians that refuse to renounce Jesus are being slaughtered every day, in our so called modern enlightened era just as Jesus said it would happen.
How do you intend to dismiss that chunk of evidence?
God also tells us that He will reestablish the Jewish nation, which also happened back in about 1948 following WWII. Prophecy fulfilled.
Lets continue beating that dead horse... Jesus was either a complete nut-job on par with the man claiming to be a poached egg when He claimed to be God in the flesh (not just a decent person, or a prophet as some claim) or He was and is who He claims to be. There are no shades of grey here. nut-job or the Son of God... period.
If the evidence was laid out in such a way that anyone who examined it would believe, then that would leave no room for faith.
For instance in John 20:19ish and on we see that Thomas refuses to believe until he see for himself and Jesus not only makes allowance for this questioning of Jesus, but He goes on to say " Because you have seen Me you have believed? Blessed are those that have not seen, and yet believed.
Because of my rational inclinations I continually struggle with what I read in the Bible, much like Thomas, but I keep going back to those verses to remind myself to leave room for faith on those points that just do not compute.
