Garden of Eden was a setup...

[Chad32]

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[quote='ChristIsLord' pid='812830' dateline='1418006931']
I believe in God and Jesus because the evidence is also undeniable.

False. If such evidence existed, there would be no reason for atheism. Everyone would believe without question.

Consider how C.S. Lewis puts it....I'm paraphrasing here
Jesus was either who He says He was (God in the FLesh) or an absolute nut-job on par with a psycho who claims to be a poached egg. We have two choices here, and that is to dismiss him as complete nut-case or to bow down at his feet as the Lord and Saviour.

Jesus told His disciples that the world hated Him first and that the world (non-believer) would hate them on the count of Him and they would be persecuted even onto death because of His name.

Christians that refuse to renounce Jesus are being slaughtered every day, in our so called modern enlightened era just as Jesus said it would happen.
How do you intend to dismiss that chunk of evidence?

God also tells us that He will reestablish the Jewish nation, which also happened back in about 1948 following WWII. Prophecy fulfilled.

Lets continue beating that dead horse... Jesus was either a complete nut-job on par with the man claiming to be a poached egg when He claimed to be God in the flesh (not just a decent person, or a prophet as some claim) or He was and is who He claims to be. There are no shades of grey here. nut-job or the Son of God... period.

If the evidence was laid out in such a way that anyone who examined it would believe, then that would leave no room for faith.

For instance in John 20:19ish and on we see that Thomas refuses to believe until he see for himself and Jesus not only makes allowance for this questioning of Jesus, but He goes on to say " Because you have seen Me you have believed? Blessed are those that have not seen, and yet believed.

Because of my rational inclinations I continually struggle with what I read in the Bible, much like Thomas, but I keep going back to those verses to remind myself to leave room for faith on those points that just do not compute.

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People fight and kill each other over pretty much any difference. Saying that people who followed christianity could be killed for it means little. Especially since Jesus himself told his it was better to drown people than allow them to convince others that christianity is wrong. When you have such a divisive mindset, you're bound to make enemies.

I believe I've said before that the prophesy of Isreal coming back would be much more impressive if they actually put a date for it. They could have waited 10,000 years, and would be praising Yahweh for a prophesy fullfilled if it happened. it's the kind of thing that's bound to happen eventually if the whole group doesn't get wiped out, so it's not impressive unless they added a specific date.

You act like blind faith is a good thing. It's not. Blessed are those who don't see, and still believe? Only if you have nothing to show. Apparently the second you die, and see god face to face, it's too late. That should raise a red flag, and make you think maybe it's a control tactic used by other humans. Why would god care if you believed in this life or the next? Because the religious leaders can't control you and take your money after you're dead.

Liar, lord, or legend. Like Hercules. Remember how I said that before?

Just keep reading the scriptures over and over until you believe. Just like any other abused person saying over and over that everything that goes wrong is there fault, and they just need to do better so they won't be beaten as often.