Sexodus?!?

[DeistPaladin]

I think just the statement of telling men not to rape, implies that they don't know its wrong, which is absurd. Most rapists know that rape is wrong, they just don't care. Almost everyone knows that rape is wrong, just like how everyone knows that murder is wrong.

There's knowing something is wrong and being able to rationalize it. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I was trying to map out a scenario where a civilization feels that robbery can be provoked if the victim "asks for it" by how he's dressed. Good people would still not commit robbery. Bad people would do it regardless. Borderline people might find it easier to rationalize.

The more wrongdoing can be rationalized, the more likely it is to be done. The point of "teach men not to rape" is creating a society that doesn't allow for easy rationalizations.

Consider that back in the 80s, there were two movies that featured a protagonist that committed what we now understand to be rape. One is "Revenge of the Nerds", where the hero disguises himself and a girl thinks he's her boyfriend and thus has sex with him. The second is "Animal House" which, I've never seen it but I understand it has a scenario of sex with a girl who's passed out drunk. The first is rape-by-deception and the second is rape due to her not being able to give consent.

Clearly, the attitude back then was very different than today. Obviously rape was easier to rationalize since script writers included it in the story. Today, we have a greater awareness that rape is not just when she says "no" but also includes the absence of a "yes". Do you really think this has no effect on the rate of rape?

Again, the more your culture helps people rationalize it, the more a certain wrongdoing will happen.

Someone has a gun to your loved ones head and says: 'if you don't rape the next person who walks through that door, i'm going to kill your loved one'

There, now we have a case where rape is, maybe not justified, but understandable.

Do you know of any actual cases where that's happened? The scenarios I outlined are either so plausible as to be certain to happen in history or are based on actual stories I've seen on the news (like the father who murdered the alleged molester of his son). In any event, your proposed scenario is so outlandish I have trouble even considering it.