(December 12, 2014 at 8:48 am)Riketto Wrote:Restating your position is not an argument against mine. There are many christian denominations out there, being one vs another does NOT make you less of a christian. The same applies to buddhist, and yoga praticiners. The important part is the core principles are the same.(December 11, 2014 at 1:15 pm)Surgenator Wrote: I have already address this. The difference between spirituality and religion is NOT interval vs external focus. The difference is touchy-feely bullshit vs organized-written bullshit. Nothing is preventing spiritualist from worshipping Gaia, and nothing is preventing religion on focusing the betterment of themselves.
Christians that don't follow all the rules in their holy book do not stop being Christians. Buddhist that don't adhere to everything in their doctrine do not stop being Buddhist. Yoga praticiners that don't adhere to everything in yoga do not stop being yoga praccticiners. So please that your marriage of the appeal-to-population falacy and no-true-scotsman falacy and throw it away. Falacies only convince the ignorant.
Your analysis is faulty.
You say.............Christians that don't follow all the rules.........or............Buddhist that don't adhere................and so on......
Now these people in a way pretend to follow the original message but they don't because they transform Buddha or Christ message into something else in order to please their own interests so it is a mistake to be called Christians or Buddhist.
Those who follow only yoga exercises (asanas) are also not yogi and even less spiritualists or religious as the so called Buddhists or Christians people so any comparison with one another doesn't make any sense.
You called practicioned but what are they practicing?
Not Christianity, not Buddhism and not yoga.
They practice their own interpretation of the original message which has nothing to do with the real thing.
Quote:Suppose i pretend to follow your philosophy but i do not really follow it properly as i change your ideas with my own interpretation and i go around saying that i am a Surgenator.Thats a strawman if I ever seen one. There is a big difference between changing principles and interpreting the principle. For example, lets take the principle "thou shalt not commit harm to another." If you then give your child a flu shot, you indirectly commited harm against your child when the needle pierce her skin. However, you prevented her harm from the flu that she would of contrated giving her more harm. So did you follow the spirit of the principle, YES.
Wouldn't you think that i am a nutcase?
Plus, you're ignoring the falling-of-the-wagon affect. People will try to follow the teachings, and will sometimes fail. Espically with a principle to remove oneself's of wants, they will fail a lot of times.