(December 14, 2014 at 10:52 am)Riketto Wrote: The people who define what religion and spirituality is haven't got a clue what religion and spirituality are.They would say the same about you, and they would have exactly as much evidence as you do. You cannot --by your own definition-- differentiate yourself from them, nor they from you.
They don't practice spirituality so how the hell would they know what it is.
You (and they) created this situation by insisting that the material or natural world cannot detect nor explain the supernatural (or mystic, or spiritual, etc). But that means that you have no way to show that their claims are wrong and yours are correct, except by making the exact same arguments, which cannot be falsified. They have their proof, and you have yours, and if we mix them up in a bowl we end up with a bowl full of nothing. Exactly as you would predict.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould