RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 2:35 pm
(This post was last modified: December 16, 2014 at 2:42 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(December 16, 2014 at 1:18 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: The Trinity is the doctrine that the Father, Son, and Holy spirit are three separate beings/persons, that share the same Deity of God....kinda like how you, jenny, and parkers are three separate persons, yet you all share the same nature..human nature.
Sweet Reason, not only do you provide no evidence, you don't even know what you're claiming.
The Trinity is more than just Jesus and Yahweh are both similar gods. The Trinity is the assertion that there is only ONE god. The reason Jesus can forgive sins and be the divine intercessor ("no one comes to the Father but by me") is because Jesus is God. And the reason Jesus prays "not my will but thy will be done" and "no one knows the day, not even the Son but the father only" is because Jesus is not God. Jesus is fully divine and fully human, fully part of God and yet fully independent from God, depending on the needs of the story at the time.
That you don't even know the theology you're defending, that I as a non-believer must explain Christianity to you, is probably the most pathetic part of this entire thread of yours.
And that's saying a lot.
(December 16, 2014 at 1:42 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: I'd like to debate the Resurrection as a whole...the Gospels are just one part within the subject...which is why I tried to build a cumulative case for the Resurrection starting with Part 1, and then just build from there...but Fidel wanted to pull his God card and he kinda messed up that for me...and now you know how my case is build so the element of surprise won't be there, at least, for how I'd like it to be.
Tell you what, I'll be generous.
Just tell me the story of the resurrection. You don't need to provide any proof that it happened. All you have to do is reconcile ALL FOUR GOSPEL ACCOUNTS with one another. You are not allowed to cherry pick. You are not allowed to omit anything. You are not allowed to contradict any part of the Gospels.
Tie it all together in one coherent, non-self-contradicting story and I'll be impressed.
(December 16, 2014 at 2:03 pm)whateverist Wrote:(December 16, 2014 at 1:42 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: I'd like to debate the Resurrection as a whole..
I'll bet you would. But you know your doctor doesn't think your lobes are ready for any heavy lifting yet. You should content yourself with stray ideas .. if you get any.
That's why I invited him to take some baby steps.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
