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Suicide
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RE: Suicide
(December 16, 2014 at 11:48 pm)Drich Wrote: keep reading

Keep dodging.

Quote:keep reading

Keep dodging.

Quote:keep reading

Keep dodging.

Quote:God only created one man, from him produced one woman, everyone else is a reproduction of what God orginally created. In order to be considered to be apart of the "family" of God, one must elect to be apart of it as per the gospel.

That said I don't have a say in whether or not you are or aren't apart of God's family. That is between you and God.

I keep asking "why does it have to be this way" and your responses are always just telling me how it is. Like I don't already know.


Quote:as per John 3:16 the oppertuity for salvation has been provided for anyone who will accept it.

Fucking dodging the question yet again.

Quote:Actually it is.

Your answer to my question "why would God care about those who do not belong to Him?"

You answered with the second of the two greatest commands.
'Love your neighbor, or turn the other cheek.'

My response was you can't hold to the second of the greatest commands and ignore the first. (Love your Lord God with all your being.)

(Your answer does not apply if you do not abide by the greatest command.)

I am asking you about God's behavior, and you refuse to answer that question. Dodge, dodge, dodge.

Quote:God does not say we are to treat our enemies as sons and daughters. This is what you want God to do.

I don't believe, so desire has nothing to do with it. I am telling you my expectations, given that God is alleged to be the ultimate good.

Quote:So if a dozen hard core ISIS members wanted you and your family to put them up for a couple of months you'd be good with that?

Quote:what capabilities do you speak of? What can God do here that you can't? Change the minds/wills of others?

If we are to be left with our wills intact, then we must understand that there will be those who want to be with God, and those who do not. If one does not then why should God force that person to be a slave.

Yet another dodge. You're not answering my questions.

What could God do? Let ISIS members stay with my family and ensure that no harm would come to them as a result.

Quote:I fear nothing concerning answering question pertaining to God/what I know of Him.
I ask you questions because the answers to your questions are indeed found in the very same nature you share with God. (As man was created in His image, and you are a copy/reproduction of that man.) Meaning we share emotion, core values, and feelings. I ask these questions to tap into these core values/feelings, like the preservation of you and your family. The desire to keep you and yours safe from those who wish you or your harm.

No, we clearly do not share core values or feelings. That is the whole point of all those questions you dodged at the beginning of my post. Would you ever accept an EMS responder to refuse to save a person's life just because they were acting stubborn and recalcitrant? God is in no way put out or endangered in the act of saving souls, so please don't waste my time with comparisons like that.

Quote:I asked you about keeping ISIS members with your family would be akin of God dragging people into heaven who has no wish of serving Him or with those who truly wish and serve Him For eternity.

Those are not correct comparisons. You did not say anything about me holding ISIS members against their will.

So that beggs the question. Why would God put a potential time bomb in with His family?

Quote:He wouldn't no more than you would... Just look at the lengths you were claiming to go for your family in the beginning of this post. God went further/the cross.

That isn't true at all. I don't get resurrected after three days.

Quote:I might be presumptuous in saying so, but I think if your going to do whatever it takes to save your kid this would include keeping terrorist/time bombs away from those you love.

If I had the power to make sure those terrorists were no threat to my family, then I have nothing to be afraid of and no reason to say no to them.

Whatever, though. I'm really disappointed. This is the one time I've really tried to ask you serious questions about your god, and the few times you've even bothered answering any of them, your answers are evasive and always involve shifting the burden of responsibility onto the being who is less intelligent and capable. Why should God do it if I can't or won't? Because he's God, and I'm not.

If you were really secure in your beliefs, you wouldn't act like this. I suggest you have a lot of soul searching to do. I'll be happy to continue this discussion if you ever find the courage to actually question the things you believe. Until you do, there's nothing to gain from this.
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Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: Suicide - by The Valkyrie - December 14, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 14, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:54 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 15, 2014 at 2:59 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 16, 2014 at 10:26 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 17, 2014 at 12:09 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 17, 2014 at 12:24 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 17, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:01 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 18, 2014 at 12:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:55 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 18, 2014 at 2:07 am
RE: Suicide - by Angrboda - December 18, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 17, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 17, 2014 at 3:08 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 16, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 17, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Suicide - by Angrboda - December 17, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Suicide - by paulpablo - December 17, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 14, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 14, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Suicide - by Aoi Magi - December 14, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Suicide - by Kitty Galore - December 15, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 16, 2014 at 1:38 am
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 14, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Suicide - by Godschild - December 14, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 15, 2014 at 6:32 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 15, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 15, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 16, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Suicide - by KevinM1 - December 16, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 16, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 16, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 15, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 16, 2014 at 6:24 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 16, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by The Valkyrie - December 14, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 15, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 15, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 15, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 15, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 15, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 14, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 9:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 15, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Suicide - by abaris - December 15, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 7:42 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: Suicide - by KevinM1 - December 15, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 16, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 16, 2014 at 3:30 am
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 16, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 3:26 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 4:40 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 5:10 am
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 18, 2014 at 2:43 pm

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