(December 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Sorry, but the definitions don't agree with your descriptions.
Sorry, but real definitions can only be given by someone involved in a practical way in that particular study of that particular item.
Anybody can define how a system works according to his-her own way of perceiving things.
Most of definitions come from people that perceive in a theoretical way.
Very rarely in a practical way that is why you got to be extra careful before you put your ok. on a particular definition.
Quote:What results? How do you know the results aren't placebo? How do you know you didn't become delusional?
Delusional involve being sad and perceive a sense of worthless.
Good results give the opposite feeling.
Quote:So, I first have to believe the spirit world exist before I can get the evidence for it? Thats delusional.
You must have a problem with your delusion surgen.
Being so defeatist doesn't take you anywhere.
It would be too easy to tell you that in a particular place there is a nugget of gold.
The game would be over well before it start.
The rule of the game is that you got to struggle to get there so in the meantime you achieve more and more consciousness.
Quote:Pointing out your lazy reasoning shows you prioritize your happy feelings for truth. Then you follow up with non sequitur, something to do with "two places at once."
Love is truth.
Have you ever seen a murderer full of love?
Quote:Bullshit.
When you say bullshit you make a statement.
Making a statement without backing it up with evidence that is a real bullshit.
Quote:My dogma, . You mean my skepticism to your claim. You should also notice the difference between our statements. I present a counter argument through reasoning, and you present more claims.
Reasoning without having practical evidence is a claim.
On the contrary a claim based on practical work is not a claim.
Quote:Easy, both are partically right and wrong.
Your response has nothing to do with my point.
Unfortunately it is you that haven't got the point.
It is not the temporary truth that is the real truth.
It is the ultimate and permanent truth that is the real truth.
Quote:No, it's has nothing to do with karma. A person doesn't determine which environment (good or bad) he is born into.
You are making a claim surgen.
And your evidence is......?
Quote:You misunderstood me. When someone makes a claim, the person countering doesn't have to make the opposite claim. What Sherman claimed (and backed up) was that these NDE's could be explained with the mind doing funny things. What he also exposed the assumptions NDE's researchers use haven't been demonstated to be true. For example, absolutely no brain activity in NDE.
Thousands of those who experienced NDEs say very clearly that when the brain stop functioning the consciousness take over so this tell us that Sacks keep on masturbating his brains thinking that NDE are bullshit.
This idiot and his followers keep on making claims after claims without understanding that even without brain activity you can perceive the reality.
Quote:So Sherman have to first accept the conclusion before they can prove the conclusion. There is a difference between leading the evidence and the evidence leading you. The former is what pseudoscientist do. The latter is what real scientist do.
All Sherman got to do is to get deeper into consciousness before he can make claim about consciousness.
Is this so complicate to understand?
Quote:There you go again, indirectly claiming something that doesn't necessary follow or true. Before I make any further assumptions, please explain to me what you think the significance of the pineal gland.
If i would tell you that since the very beginning of intuitional science practices people believe in the role of the pineal gland as the access to the spiritual world all this wouldn't make any sense to you.
If i also would tell you that the pineal gland is located at the very top of the spinal column and control all the other glands also this wouldn't make any sense to you.
I could tell you a book full of claims but claims in this instance can only be demonstrate when you activate your hidden subconscious and as i already said i can not do this for you so in the meantime you will have to wait thinking again that it is all a load of bullshit.
Quote:Avoiding the question I see. Personally, I don't care if you don't answer my other questions, but these importants ones I would prefer to focus on.
There is a difference between thinking that i did not answer the question and not understanding the answer.
The latter relate more to your problem.