(December 21, 2014 at 5:10 pm)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure the stuff about the Virgin birth was inserted after the fact. Well, after-after the fact since the NTs seem to deal only in second hand sources after all the events had already finished. He was meant to be the descendant of David originally to fulfil prophecy, which now he isn't, because he got switched out that blood line.
It's all complete crap, if there was a real guy, you're lucky if he did or said a handful of the things attributed to him in my opinion. I'm not sure it's even a given that he was crucified, if he existed at all.
Apologies if I mucked any details up, this was a hasty post before bed
The only truths, if any, I would say would be a poor peasant jew that claimed to be son of David, and for that was crucified. Just like 1000's of other jews and criminals. What made him so special I think is the Romans, for reasons I don't know.