(January 1, 2015 at 1:27 pm)Surgenator Wrote:(January 1, 2015 at 8:28 am)Riketto Wrote: I will be back at you as soon as i got a bit of time.
In the meantime if you look back at some previous posts you already got the answer to your question.
There is no devil.
There are instead two forces that try all the time to make you go up or down in your consciousness.
There is at least 7 forces: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony. You're over simplifing things again. Hense, you missed the big picture that the devil not only exist but in control.
In a way you are quite correct.
In fact there is more than one force.
Our instincts and if we can call motivations takes us here and there in order to satisfy our different senses and our different feeling that spring from different peculiarities within.
But again it would be far too complex to distinguish this from that, that is why the best thing to do is to put on one side those movement that help to improve our consciousness and on the other side those who reduce our level of consciousness.
Here i give you one more example.
Suppose you get one 5 in pride and one 7 in envy.
At the end you average vote would be a 6.
But let us coming back to your imaginary devil.
What are the motivations that push someone to do the right or the wrong thing?
Are God or the devil?
Of course not.
None of them but you.
Going up the mountain is hard work but coming down is quite easy so most of the people like more coming down than go up as most of the people stop their studies well before they get a degree even if they know that by getting a degree they would do much better in life.
This is all about freedom to go here or there nothing to do with God or the devil.
We could write a book about the philosophy of going up or down consciously speaking but i don't really want to waste my time with someone who at this stage is not at all interested in this issue.
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