(December 29, 2014 at 2:18 am)Surgenator Wrote:(December 28, 2014 at 12:31 pm)Riketto Wrote: Not at all surgen.Society agrees on what the meaning of a word (i.e. the definition) is. This is required to be able to communicate. If you do not know how to use the words corectly, people don't understand what you're saying. Case in point.
If i got right you said that definitions make sense because the majority dictate so that is why i said that it not necessary the majority opinion that make sense in most cases.
I am talking about apples while you talk about plums.
Your plum talking related to the fact that by using an established definition everybody understand you and here i agree with you but my apples talking related to the fact that established definitions often don't mean anymore what they meant at the time that they first came in the people mouths so by letting people know their real meaning is something good to do.
The same problem spring out the spiritual messages left to us by several enlightened creatures that later on have turned into religion so if you really think that today definition shouldn't change according to their original meaning then you really behave like a religious person into thinking that today definition are the real thing when in fact they are the vandalized version of the original.
Quote:Are you really trying to argue against cause and effect? The cause is the person's taughts/desires and the effect is their actions. It is that simple.
Causes do not distinguish between thoughts and actions.
You will create effects with both.
Quote:Yes, I'm a mother fucking magician, and I don't need to win the lottery because I get all the things I want because I'm a mother fucking magician.
Oh, boy.
Didn't anybody tell you that you shouldn't use your brains when under the influences of various items?



Quote:One of the most failed logic is to dismiss something without even try to see whether it is true or not.
Quote:3 things: 1) You shouldn't start believing things just because someone said it.
2) You're ignoring the criticisms of the so called evidence.
3) You're ignoring the counter evidence.
Gimma the evidence surgen.
I believe when you give me.

Quote:You effectively quoted Sack's conclusion without looking at his reasoning that lead to the conclusion. Two example where Sacks uses other people experiments to back up his conclusion that from your source.
First Shermer rely on Sacks for his so called evidence and now we got Sacks that rely on somebody else to back up his so called evidence.
Maybe tomorrow we may learn that this last Mr. SOMEBODY rely on some other somebody and that somebody rely on a new somebody.
This actually is not only funny.
It is extremely funny.

Quote:OBEs, as Henrik Ehrsson and his fellow researchers in Stockholm have elegantly shown, can be produced experimentally, by using simple equipment -- video goggles, mannequins, rubber arms, etc. -- to confuse one's visual input and one's proprioceptive input and create an uncanny sense of disembodiedness.
Quote:But we know from the experience of Tony Cicoria and many others, that a hallucinatory journey to the bright light and beyond, a full-blown NDE, can occur in 20 or 30 seconds, even though it seems to last much longer.
You know surgen what all this remind me?
The meat saga.
Even now after so many years of studying many researchers say that meat is good.
How come then that people eating meat got so many problems with cardiovascular diseases while vegetarians are mainly free from this problem.
None the less these smart researchers still masturbate their brains thinking that they got the real bonanza

Quote:I digged a lot. The only thing I found was more soil or bedrock. Neither were very interesting. So if someone can reproduce the halluciantion then that means it was not a halluciantion.You need more than repeatability to say something exist. You need consistent predictability of something new.
In case you are not capable of solving a problem you need help.
That is why the teachers and the gurus are there to help you.
Quote:Atheist don't believe in God and generally the devil. I personally don't. I only proposed a thought experiment.
If you don't believe in something or someone what's the point in using this thing that don't exist?
Quote:Sorry, but everything is not balanced. There is only the illusion of "positive" and over abundance of "negative." The balanced you feel is trickery by the devil, and he has done a wonderful job of tricking you. Break free from your illusion and surrender to masochism.
Again you mention something that according to you does not exist.
No wonder that your experiments will fail.
