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Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
Quote:Yes, I'm referring to legal rights, obviously. Which is my point, if there was some patriarchal system against women in the west, it wouldn't be so equal between the genders and men wouldn't suffer oppression either. But I guess to feminists, male oppression isn't as bad or is caused by the patriarchy itself which just begs the question about it's validity.
1 - Just because the law says so, it doesn't mean in happens like it says on the law
2 - Men don't suffer oppression and if you think you're being oppressed when we hold the majority of public office, CEO's jobs, media outlets and means of production then you've just created a new definition of oppressed, give me a break...

Quote:If you want to get technical on rights though, women do seem to have more rights in some respects, like child custody and alimony where as I can't think of something a man has in his favor legally.
That becomes completely irrelevant since it's based on the sexist assumption that women are meant to be child bearers and raisers - In case you don't know (probably don't) rational feminists are against gender biases in court. Not to mention it's completely idiotic to claim women are benefited when problems like slut-shaming, higher probability of suffering sexual assault and other problems are much more damaging and important than simply being granted child custody.
And why is that a good thing? Some might argue raising kids sucks and it's hardworking, some might even say it's a benefit for men.

Quote:Yes, I'm referring to legal rights, obviously. Which is my point, if there was some patriarchal system against women in the west, it wouldn't be so equal between the genders and men wouldn't suffer oppression either. But I guess to feminists, male oppression isn't as bad or is caused by the patriarchy itself which just begs the question about it's validity.
1 - Just because the law says so, it doesn't mean in happens like it says on the law
2 - Men don't suffer oppression and if you think you're being oppressed when we hold the majority of public office, CEO's jobs, media outlets and means of production then you've just created a new definition of oppressed, give me a break...

Quote:If you want to get technical on rights though, women do seem to have more rights in some respects, like child custody and alimony where as I can't think of something a man has in his favor legally.
That becomes completely irrelevant since it's based on the sexist assumption that women are meant to be child bearers and raisers - In case you don't know (probably don't) rational feminists are against gender biases in court. Not to mention it's completely idiotic to claim women are benefited when problems like slut-shaming, higher probability of suffering sexual assault and other problems are much more damaging and important than simply being granted child custody.
And why is that a good thing? Some might argue raising kids sucks and it's hardworking, some might even say it's a benefit for men.

Quote:Where is this campaign for actually oppressed women instead of these whiny 1st world problem hipster feminists? and how well is it doing for those women over there? not good huh? thought so. Again, you must not be following feminism very closely because there are a bunch of harpies that write horrible shit all over tumblr about men and it can get hundreds of thousands of notes and positive feedback from feminists.
And you must be one of those young male that believes in the conspiracy theory that feminism is ruining your life and that women want to impose a new world order. Speaking about tumblr as if that was feminist literature is completely idiotic. And have you actually read any significant work of literature or study done by feminist authors on the matter?
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community? - by Dystopia - January 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm
SPEEDBUMP - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 4, 2015 at 9:42 am

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