If

[Surgenator]

Improving or reducing consciousness??? Like drinking coffee vs drinking beer.

Consciousness doesn't spring out the mind nor is something material.
It rather the awareness of who you really are but this topic is a bit difficult to understand from an atheist point of view as you just shown above.

Prove that consciousness can exist without a brain. Or do you think it is an amazing coincidence that consciousness only arises in brains, and no longer noticed when the brain is dead. Or that altering the brain directly affects consciousness. Some amazing coincidence as if consciousness springs out of the brain.

Your not talking about consciousness but awareness. Specifically, awareness of the spirit world. However, you cannot show to anyone else that such a spirit world exist becase the devil is giving you illusions of it.

By gaining in self awareness you also realize that you are heading toward the non-illusory dimension so the force that try to push you down get wicker and wicker.
But again you are free to say that the devil give me illusions.

Self awareness doesn't tell you anything about the environment you live in. Self awareness just tells you that you exist, nothing more. The ability to view yourself in someone elses shoes is what helps you determine if an action is "wicked" path.

I do use established definition while you don't. The "real meaning" of words are the established definitions not the ones you make up on the fly. Langauge is versitile enough that you can express your points using the proper definitions of words. If you can't, your point is malformed or you are failing at using language properly.

Not really.
If i explain the real meaning of the words most people with a little bit of brains will be rather happy to hear the real meaning.

The "real" definition is the establish definition. It is really amazing on how you don't understand this simple concept.

Causes do not distinguish between thoughts and actions.
You will create effects with both.

:fasepalm: Do peoples thoughts/desires dictate their intended actions or not? This is a simple yes or no.

A though doesn't necessary dictate action or it is follow by action however it does dictate a reaction regardless.
This of course according to the karma system.

I'm beginning to think I'm wasting my time when you can't even answer a yes or no question.

Gimma the evidence surgen.
I believe when you give me.

Been down this road already. I have shown you the evidence, go look at my previous post. Your retort of them is a character assassination instead of critic of the evidence itself.

Your evidence is the usual claim.
Been down this road again mate.

And your falacies have been pointed out too.

First Shermer rely on Sacks for his so called evidence and now we got Sacks that rely on somebody else to back up his so called evidence.
Maybe tomorrow we may learn that this last Mr. SOMEBODY rely on some other somebody and that somebody rely on a new somebody.
This actually is not only funny.
It is extremely funny.

What is actually funny is that you think you made a valid point. Sacks quoting other independent researchers evidence that supports his conclusion is not a weakness but a strength. It literally means that someone else that doesn't work with Sacks did their own experiments and get the same conclusions as Sacks.

I already gave the example of the meat saga in which different researchers came up with the conclusion that meat is good when in fact the evidence prove the opposite so it really doesn't matter how many researchers came to the same conclusion.
When the evidence prove them wrong that is the end of the story. Amen.

The researchers have testible, repeatable experiments that give predictions. Predictions made by them are tested and confirmed. You don't have anything of the sort. Learn what evidence is before you claim to have any.

Each and everyone of us has a darkside that will harm others for our own personal gain. The devil is just the perfect darkside that harms anyone and everyone for her personal pleasure. How can you say such a being cannot exist when the evidence is in you?

To do the wrong thing doesn't give evidence that Mr. Devil is present in our life.
On the other hand there is evidence that two forces exist.
Lower forms of life like plants and animals are driven by instinct but as soon as these form of lives get emancipated to human life the instinct loose part of his grip to let the freedom to decide to emerge.
With the freedom you choose to go further up or go back down to animal or plant life.
This again is according to yoga philosophy which doesn't make any sense to an atheist.

You are just trying to walk up on an escalator that is going down, and you don't realize it.