(January 3, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(January 3, 2015 at 2:16 pm)Lek Wrote: Do you believe that Plato existed and that he wrote the works attributed to him?
You're asserting that a god exists, and asking me if a man existed? I'm smelling a bait-and-switch coming.
But hey, I'll play along. I believe Plato existed. He is mentioned in contemporaneous works, he left a body of his own works, and he wasn't claimed to be to be a divine being born of a virgin who resurrected after his death ... just in case you're trying to go there.
(January 3, 2015 at 3:43 pm)Lek Wrote: No. I's not hard and I'm willing to accept most of that evidence. It shows that you also believe in the existence of persons based on that type of unscientific evidence. We have the same type of evidence for Jesus, except there's more and it's more recent.
This is factually incorrect. See H_M's thread about the Resurrection for details.
Also, having evidence for a man named Jesus is not the same as having evidence for the god named Jesus. Stop sliding those shells around.
Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No shell game. I believe that Plato and Socrates existed based on the same type of evidence we have for the existence of Jesus, except that we have more and newer evidence for Jesus. You accept the evidence for Plato and Socrates, but not for Jesus. Why do so many atheists believe in the existence of one and not the other?
