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The God of Convenience
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RE: The God of Convenience
(January 4, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Lek Wrote: I can understand why unbelievers would ignore all the signs, especially since none of them saw the risen Jesus. We always have modern day "evangelists" claiming to have healed people from every kind of disease, but does it get any attention from anyone other than their followers? No, because they are immediately dismissed as phonies. I do the same thing. It would have the same with Jesus. The Romans, or other non-witnesses, would have immediately dismissed the miracles, just as you do. The catholics claim miracles, such as the miracles at Lourdes or miracles attributed to the intercession of certain saints Do you even bother to look into them or do you just disregard them as fabricated signs for the faithful?

If all these supposed miracle workers either keep their miracles isolated from the scientific testing or objective verification that would prove them, or actively resist that same testing and verification, then what other choice do I have, but to dismiss them? Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, and when it comes to miracle claims, they are always asserted without evidence. That's more than a little suspicious.

But what you can't do, Lek, is accuse us of just instant dismissal of these miracles when the first thing that comes to my mind, personally, when you present those claims is "what objective evidence or testing has been done?" It's not my problem that the answer is "none," and that I won't accept the simple claim of a miracle as proof of it, but you surely cannot lob these accusations of instant dismissals when what I immediately ask for is an interrogation and testing of the claim beyond what you yourself want. Dodgy
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The God of Convenience - by Mental Outlaw - December 29, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Aoi Magi - December 30, 2014 at 2:21 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - December 30, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Spooky - December 30, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Tonus - December 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - December 30, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - December 30, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by JuliaL - December 30, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 6:54 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Jenny A - January 1, 2015 at 8:56 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Tonus - January 1, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 1, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 1, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 1, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Silver - January 3, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by bennyboy - January 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by bennyboy - January 4, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2015 at 3:41 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Minimalist - January 4, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Jenny A - January 3, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 3, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 11:41 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Kulthenius - January 4, 2015 at 1:18 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 4, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 4, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 4, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 4, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Silver - January 5, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by h4ym4n - January 5, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 5, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 5, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 9:08 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 6, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 6, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 6, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 3, 2015 at 11:19 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Minimalist - January 1, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Minimalist - January 1, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 1, 2015 at 9:58 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by JuliaL - January 3, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by JuliaL - January 4, 2015 at 1:16 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 3, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 5, 2015 at 2:07 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 3:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 4:17 pm



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