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The God of Convenience
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RE: The God of Convenience
(January 3, 2015 at 11:41 pm)Lek Wrote: I don't know of any archaeological excavations that reveal the existence of Plato.
Well, there was the school he founded, the Academy, which was a prominent center for education for 800 years, that has been excavated.
(January 3, 2015 at 11:41 pm)Lek Wrote: How many historians from Plato's time write of his existence?
Perhaps I spoke in haste. Apart from Plato's own writings and his student Aristotle, I could not find any sources that could be considered from Plato's time. Information about what Plato's contemporaries thought about him come to us through later writers.
(January 3, 2015 at 11:41 pm)Lek Wrote: The oldest surviving manuscript of any of Plato's works dates to 895 AD. That's about 1,300 years after his supposed lifetime. Yet virtually everyone believes he did exist. Most historians today believe that Jesus did exist. The manuscript evidence for Plato's existence doesn't hold a candle to the manuscript evidence for Jesus, of which the earliest copies date to one to two hundred years after his lifetime.
So, because the earliest copies of his works are much later, you think that casts doubt on... What exactly? It wouldn't matter if we had Paul's letters written in his own hand... that is evidence of nothing.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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The God of Convenience - by Mental Outlaw - December 29, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Aoi Magi - December 30, 2014 at 2:21 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - December 30, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Spooky - December 30, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Tonus - December 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - December 30, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - December 30, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by JuliaL - December 30, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 6:54 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Jenny A - January 1, 2015 at 8:56 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Tonus - January 1, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 1, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 1, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 1, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 1, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Silver - January 3, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by bennyboy - January 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by bennyboy - January 4, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2015 at 3:41 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Minimalist - January 4, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Jenny A - January 3, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 3, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 11:41 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Kulthenius - January 4, 2015 at 1:18 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 4, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 4, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 4, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 4, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 4, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Silver - January 5, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by h4ym4n - January 5, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 5, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 5, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Esquilax - January 5, 2015 at 9:08 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 6, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 6, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 6, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 3, 2015 at 11:19 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Minimalist - January 1, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Minimalist - January 1, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 1, 2015 at 9:58 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by JuliaL - January 3, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 3, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by JuliaL - January 4, 2015 at 1:16 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 3, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Thumpalumpacus - January 5, 2015 at 2:07 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 3:01 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by Lek - January 5, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: The God of Convenience - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 4:17 pm



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