(January 4, 2015 at 1:44 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: People experience free will when they can conceive and consciously deliberate over potential courses of action and select among those choices apart from internal or external compulsion. One must presuppose physical causal closure to conclude that all choices are compelled.They "experience free will" begs the question. They experience rather a cascade of mostly random thoughts and feelings that fluctuate and overpower one another, connected however to past events and present conditions in the person's life. One must ignore all evidence of reality and resort to special pleading to argue the dumb notion that -some- people, when they reach a certain age, become connected to an invisible secret portal (perhaps the gateway rests in the brain but I'll leave that up to you Reinnasance philosophers to speculate) where a person's soul sits, as a little god or uncaused cause, directing operations.
(January 4, 2015 at 1:44 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Your color example assumes that the subjective of experience of color is identical to and reducible to some set of physical operationsWell... yeah, duh. Sorry but citing the law of identity can't rescue your illogic here.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza