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WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER...
RE: WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER...
(January 5, 2015 at 1:05 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Secularism as you put it, may be neutral or "indifferent" to religion by definition but not in practice. For instance, the first amendment guarantees the free exercise of religion, yet we have children being disciplined for exercising their right.
Boy Suspended from School For Reading Bible During Recess
Student suspended for saying ‘bless you’ at school


The first instance doesn't appear to be a matter of governmental policy, but rather, an overzealous teacher; as such, it is not pertinent to a discussion of secularism, because secularism in the context of this discussion is a matter of policy.

Also, with a little digging I found this:

Quote:So I called up Principal Peggy Dodds just a little while ago and got her side of the story before shit hits the fan in the conservative world.
According to Dodds, Turner was not given an in-school suspension. She wasn’t sent out of the classroom, either — she chose to walk out. And, most importantly, she wasn’t punished by the teacher for saying “God bless you” — however, the teacher did admonish her for “disrupting the classroom.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...bless-you/

Additionally, there are other indications that she didn't do this to simply "bless" a fellow student after a sneeze, but that she rather wants to push her notions of god into the classroom ... in other words, she wants the school to be non-secular, and is using this as a wedge to open the issue.

The second case is a matter of the boy violating the school's policy of not practicing religion during school hours ("School officials say the student was warned several times that he could not practice religion during school hours, but refused to comply"). [edit: I apparently got taken in by the satire, too -- Parks]

Schools aren't religious centers. The attempt to inject religion into schools is asking them to go outside the scope of their mission, but I can understand the Christian attempts to do so. You have to catch people when they're young and naive in order to sell a line of bullshit like the Biblical story.

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RE: WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER... - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 24, 2015 at 2:09 pm
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