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the part in red is what I stated makes a happy society, as you can see, secularism isn't a criteria

I mean seriously, WTF.

Are you understanding what people are writing, or do you really not get the point people here are trying to make?

Nobody, not a single person, ever, on this thread, has said that secularism is necessary for a state of happy people. Not once. Cite me if you think I've said that, ever.

What I have said, repeatedly, and have repeatedly drawn attention to over these many pages, is that happy, prosperous states tend to be secular (as you yourself evidence in your very own links FFS!). Why? Because they satisfy your very own criteria for what happiness relates to - freedom of choice. That the the poll you've cited doesn't explicitly say " a secular state" is irrelevant. If it did, it would change the results for some and not for others. I mean FUCK man. What is wrong with you?

Secularism, again, as repeatedly posted and repeatedly argued, IS the definition of freedom of choice.

Again, what is it that you're not understanding? If this was real life everyone in the room would be in hysterics as you repeatedly miss the point. Thank god for internets anonymity I guess.

I keep asking and you keep ignoring, but I'll keep asking anyway. What does secularism mean to you? What does it conjure in your mind when someone says 'secularism'? Because I feel the reason you're holding secularism to be the antithesis to religion is because you haven't got the foggiest what on earth secularism is, and have instead conjured it in your mind as an atheist conspiracy, as you yourself admit in a post on this very thread.