(January 7, 2015 at 2:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Who gave you the given?
The OP made the claim that people have seen God face to face.
(January 7, 2015 at 2:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: In any case, your statement is a play on the religious meaning of the phrase "and yet didn't believe in Him". There's a harsher way I could say that, of course - but you just came back and I missed you.
Thanks! Just let me know when you're done pulling your punches.

(January 7, 2015 at 2:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So...... You're talking about whether seeing one thing, means believing something entirely separate - they didn't see the second thing. Tighten your laces, and don't try to sneak shit in with parenthesis.According to Biblical record:
Did people in the OT see God face to face?
Did people see Jesus face to face?
Is Jesus God?
Did therefore people who saw Jesus see God face to face?
Did everyone who saw Jesus face to face believe in God?
Did therefore some people see God and yet not believe in Him?
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?