(August 1, 2010 at 11:42 am)fr0d0 Wrote: They reject post-Apostolic statements such as the Nicene Creed.Who does? Proof?What sort of proof do you require? Mine is past conversations with family and friends who are devout Christians. My cousin for example, while he appreciates them as historical documents rejects all creeds because they are not from Jesus' teachings or in the Gospels of the New Testament, he regards them as hymns in a sense. I can't possibly introduce you to him, owing to the falling out we had when he finally realised I deconverted to atheism (sucks to have dogmatic divisive beliefs I know).
The problem is you present a No True Scotsman fallacy when there's no single denomination of orthodox Christianity - Christians can and often do reject the Nicene Creed for various reasons, for example, it's not Biblical Scripture. Likewise the Apostle's Creed is rejected by some on the basis of verses that state "Jesus descended into Hell".
For the same reasons when I was a Christian I rejected specific works of the Apocrypha as non-canonical text whenever they spoke or hinted of redeeming the lost sinners from hell. If you still demand proof half what we've discussed can be found on just about any Christian forum website fr0d0.
