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The REAL challenge
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RE: The REAL challenge
(January 11, 2015 at 10:00 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(January 11, 2015 at 9:48 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Non-physical things are things like love and happiness but god is not supposed to be just a concept it is supposed to be an agent with thought processes plans and aspirations which all demand some form of physicality.

And there's evidence everywhere of stuff happening. Love is inspired and produces physical outcomes using physical transport, but still we can't observe the physical entity "love". You want to make an exception for God and observe him.

Love is an emotion and will produce repeatable and observable patterns in the brain that can be observed.

It will also produce certain changes in hormone levels and other physical reactions as well as responses to actions in the world that display affection.

I give my wife flowers, I kiss her and care for her. By my actions I at least imply love.

What does god do?

Nothing that can be detected and it's adherents point to easily explained phenomena and try to shoehorn in their god.

"If god weren't real would people be ready to kill themselves for it?"
"God helped my team win the final"
"God gave me this talent" (this is one americans use a lot)
"God moved me to be compassionate"

Can you point to anything that couldn't have a non-god answer?

The sad part is that you cling to your belief that no evidence is still sufficient evidence for anything at all.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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The REAL challenge - by Paraselene - January 11, 2015 at 1:32 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by Minimalist - January 11, 2015 at 1:53 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by robvalue - January 11, 2015 at 4:49 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by downbeatplumb - January 11, 2015 at 7:16 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by downbeatplumb - January 11, 2015 at 8:12 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by Huggy Bear - January 11, 2015 at 9:21 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2015 at 9:23 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by downbeatplumb - January 11, 2015 at 9:48 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2015 at 10:00 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by downbeatplumb - January 11, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by Huggy Bear - January 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: The REAL challenge - by Paraselene - January 11, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: The REAL challenge - by robvalue - January 11, 2015 at 7:22 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 11, 2015 at 7:28 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by Aoi Magi - January 11, 2015 at 8:22 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by fr0d0 - January 11, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by robvalue - January 11, 2015 at 11:14 pm
RE: The REAL challenge - by Cyberman - January 12, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by Drich - January 12, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by Paraselene - January 12, 2015 at 12:57 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by dyresand - January 12, 2015 at 12:58 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by rexbeccarox - January 12, 2015 at 2:02 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by Cyberman - January 12, 2015 at 1:33 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by robvalue - January 12, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by robvalue - January 12, 2015 at 1:00 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by dyresand - January 12, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by robvalue - January 12, 2015 at 1:52 am
RE: The REAL challenge - by robvalue - January 12, 2015 at 2:45 am

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