(January 11, 2015 at 9:10 am)Riketto Wrote: To make it shorter let us see what Pim van Lommel say.
It say...........The current concept in medical science states that consciousness is the product of the brain. This concept, however, has never been scientifically proven....... it also say..............In our study all patients had a cardiac arrest, they were clinically dead, unconscious, caused by insufficient blood supply to the brain because of inadequate blood circulation, breathing, or both. ...........
Uhm, the brain doesn't work whether is dead or not so how it is possible to experience an NDE other than when the consciousness take over?
You still haven't explained this point surgen.
"The term clinical death had some value. Usually this term referred to the cessation of cardiac function, as might occur during a medical procedure or a heart attack. A physician could make this determination quickly and then try CPR or other techniques in an effort to restore cardiac function. "Clinical death" was therefore a useful term because it acknowledged that one of the basic criteria for determining death applied to the situation, yet it did not stand in the way of resuscitation efforts." Clinically dead doesn't mean brain dead. Lommel assumes the loss of blood to the brain means the brain stops working. This is not the case. Effects due to loss of blood supply to the brain have been studied in fighter pilots who experience high G forces. These pilots experiences are very similiar to NDE if not identical. :mic-drop: