Surgenator Wrote: "The term clinical death had some value. Usually this term referred to the cessation of cardiac function, as might occur during a medical procedure or a heart attack. A physician could make this determination quickly and then try CPR or other techniques in an effort to restore cardiac function. "Clinical death" was therefore a useful term because it acknowledged that one of the basic criteria for determining death applied to the situation, yet it did not stand in the way of resuscitation efforts." [/url] Clinically dead doesn't mean brain dead. Lommel assumes the loss of blood to the brain means the brain stops working. This is not the case. Effects due to loss of blood supply to the brain have been studied in fighter pilots who experience high G forces. These pilots experiences are very similiar to NDE if not identical. :mic-drop:
And these facts make you believe you that the brain is still working and conscious?
There are few things to consider.
1) There are differences between a natural loss of blood supply to the brain and one induced loss. It is like the difference between making love and masturbate,
2) It is important to consider the quantity of loss blood to the brain.
Does the loss of blood supply to the brain in high G forces experiences equal to the loss of blood in a natural situation of flat-lined" EEG state?
As Lommel say......The current concept in medical science states that consciousness is the product of the brain. This concept, however, has never been scientifically proven.......
But again it is clear that some of these NDEs experiences can not be the result of the brain like in the case where it was witness places or people that could not be witness with the mind.
The brain can not do this so the conclusion is that the consciousness can not possibly be the product of the brain as the brain is not able to see behind closed doors. Cheers.
