RE: Blurring the lines.
January 12, 2015 at 1:36 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 1:39 pm by Drich.)
(January 12, 2015 at 12:21 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Courtesy. It's not our job to police who is and isn't a real ™ Christian. Christians seem happy to accept nominal Christians into the fold when the topic is what percentage of (say) Americans are Christians. Neil Tyson calls himself an agnostic when he's clearly an agnostic atheist, but if he doesn't want to call himself an atheist, that's his right. If someone wants to call themselves a Christian, that's their right. If you have a problem with who is calling themseleves Christian, take it up with them.Actually that is what I am doing (I am taking it up with the people who call others Christian when they themselves call each other by a different name. )
For example Mormons are supposed followers of the prophet Moroni, and the third testament of the bible. They consider 'Christians' followers of the second testament which is has been corrupt over time. That is the reason for the distinction of 'latter day saints' and the title 'Mormon' over Christian.
Even so many here (Atheists) would argue that they are Christian when they themselves do not see it that way. So I am asking the lablers why do you insist that in this case Mormons are Christians?
Quote:Personally, and no offense intended, I think that describes you pretty well. I think your idiosyncratic theology has led you off the reservation of what legitimately can be called Christian. But if that's how you identify, it's not my job to convince you otherwise.As per my open ended defination I support one of the broadest ranges of Christianity of any formal denomination. I honestly think you guys (those who are guilty of this) lable people christian in a straw man effort to devalue or defame the religion, inorder to make an easier arguement.
Quote:What has this to do with atheists? Why are we your target audience for your complaint? For the most part, we don't care who really is or isn't a Christian. For me, this is similar to my lack of concern for who really is or isn't a true Star Wars fan.Actually it is, if you choose to speak about star wars fandom. How can you claim no responsiblity of a subject matter if you take the time to speak on it?
Quote:So convince the people you're complaining of that you're right. Convincing atheists is irrelevant to the matter.I'm working on it.
Quote:You seem to be thinking of Catholics, not atheists.It would seem that most of you have a 'catholic' based understanding of Christianity.
(January 12, 2015 at 1:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Mormons claim to believe in christ. Case closed. You claim to believe in christ - case closed...or no? If this simple principle is getting smashed to peices on the rock of your skull...I could always quote your god-man and ask you why you're being so very unchristian...lol. For some reason, though, I don't think it would help.
Is canonical a new word for you? It means biblically based... Mormons teach from the book of mormon (and several others) none of which are the bible.
(January 12, 2015 at 1:19 pm)Cinjin Wrote:(January 12, 2015 at 11:47 am)Drich Wrote: What's with blurring the lines between those who claim Christianity and those who actually practice it?
Yeah - if there's a line between the two, the party responsible for blurring it is NOT the unbelievers.
You people are so divided on whats what, we couldn't have possibly muddied it further.
long time no see! welcome back
